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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:43:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl wrote:
   John wrote:

  
   Come on, Tom. I have a lot of faults, but I wouldn’t say “pride” is one of them.

In person, no. But the bigotry you continuously spout in here shows Pride in
   yourself and your chosen religion.

If that is your perception, then I guess it is so, but I have to say that it is very easy to be misunderstood in a forum such as this.
  
   In practice I am a pretty tolerant person,

In person, you are. But some of the things you say in here border on insanity sometimes.

Hmmm. Really insane, or just not inline with what you believe? :-)

  
   and in theory it shouldn’t matter what I believe.

In THEORY, maybe not. But if you ever have any position of power and start pushing your agenda, what you believe will be highly relevant.

That is what is known as a “religious test” and is completely unconstitutional.

   Contrary to your protestations from time to time in here, I really don’t think you could keep from pushing your insanity on others - insanity just tends to do that, whether it realizes it or not.

This attitude is the one that seems bigotted to me. You characterize my beliefs as “insane”, presumabley because they differ from yours.
  
   As far as Christianity breeding violence and death, I don’t see it. People aren’t perfect, and to expect Christians to act perfectly is a little over the top. And the “Christians” who persist to act in evil ways are rebuked by other Christians.

Up until WW2, I’d say Xtians were pretty much top dog in violence and death throughout their short history. Since you seem to be willing to bury your head about most of the Bible, I am not surprised that you can bury your head about Xtian history outside of the Bible.

Are you asserting that events described in the OT actually occured? I don’t think you can argue both ways.

And BTW, the Crusades ended about 500 years ago-- time to let it go already. I don’t deny the ugly parts of Christianity’s history; neither does Christianity itself. Christianity acknowledges its own faults and changes to correct them. The glaring denial comes from people like you and RM who refuse to acknowledge the incredible amount of GOOD done throughout history in the name of Jesus Christ.

JOHN



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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) In person, no. But the bigotry you continuously spout in here shows Pride in yourself and your chosen religion. (...) In person, you are. But some of the things you say in here border on insanity sometimes. (...) In THEORY, maybe not. But if (...) (21 years ago, 19-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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