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Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:39:01 GMT
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I deny the validity of that point--an armed citizenry was valid for
preserving freedom in the 18th century against a king who wanted to take that
freedom away, but for those of us living in a long running democracy, now in
the 21st century, armed citizens *do not* preserve the freedom. You haven’t
needed a gun to vote. Your pappa didn’t need a gun to vote, your great
granddaddy didn’t need a gun to vote. Not in this century (3 years old) nor
the previous century, did you need a gun to defend your right to vote, to
defend your democracy from your fellow citizen, to defend America from
Americans.
Your gun in your house takes away the freedom of life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness of 25 thousand individuals per year.
I’ll even grant you the ‘suicide clause’ and knock that number to 11,000.
Does the violent homicidal deaths of 11,000 people equal your right to keep a
gun in your house?
For me, the answer is a resounding no, for I like my fellow citizens too much
to play with their lives on the *no* chance that my gun will be used sometime
in a future generation (even though it hasn’t been needed in the past couple
of generations) to “protect” my freedoms.
Just admit that you want the gun for no valid rational reason except for
personal wants and desires. You want the gun so you can talk about ‘brain
lead’ and ‘outta my cold dead hands’. Admitting that is the first step.
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And yet you still have not addressed the post linked above. Throughout history
there has never been a democracy where the citizenry was unarmed. Even in
Canada, Britian, and Austrailia you still have armed citizenries. Nixion left
office, my right to vote, politicians obeying the durration of their terms, etc.
occur becuase the people have the ability to force it, not because we have
to force it.
-Mike Petrucelli
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) I've been addressing it from the beginning--An armed citizenry is not needed I've talked with my local MPP, I've spoken with other politicians at various levels of political power (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
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| (...) I deny the validity of that point--an armed citizenry was valid for preserving freedom in the 18th century against a king who wanted to take that freedom away, but for those of us living in a long running democracy, now in the 21st century, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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