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Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
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Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:19:30 GMT
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Chris,
"Moz (Chris Moseley)" wrote:
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> Sproaticus <jsproat@io.com> wrote
> I'm afraid I have to disagree with both of you.
> Take hate crimes.
What does this have to do with private institutions?
> I do think they should be discriminated against. You fry someone for a string of > 1st
> degree murders? OK, so do something worse for a string of dead Jews.
I am sorry, but I think hate crime legislation is very wrong. How can you hate
anyone anymore than by taking his life? It it worse to kill a room full of
Jewish people than a room of white people? Come on!
It maybe naive to be racist, sexist, etc. but it is not prosecutable. You can
think what you want. It can be a factor, if there is a pattern of racism, etc.
It is bad law. Lord knows some would like to try me because I am a conservative!
And if you are tried for murder, as in your example, and you are sentenced to
death, how can "hate crime" legislation make a worse sentence? By turning up the
volts or something?
> On a lower level, should the government be allowed to help a business do
> something the government is explicitly forbidden to do?
Do I want to ask? OK, what do you mean by this?
> Whether that be
> toppling foreign governments or refusing service to blacks, should they be
> allowed to do it?
Toppling foreign governments is sometimes necessary, in our imperfect world.
> Should you be required to date ethnic groups pro rata by their presence
> in the general population? No, that's silly.
Yes, it is.
> Should you be punished for
> being exceptionally rude to Slovaks?
Rude? Gosh, I know about 190 cashiers around the Michigan area that can be tried
then! Discrimination against Americans!
> Yes, that's unreasonable behaviour,
It might be, but it is not against the law.
> group hate based behaviour.
So, it is OK to be rude, as in your example, to white people, then? But not to
minorities or whatever? Boy, what roads you can travel!
> The milder the bias the harder it is to defend it, or banning it. But
> when we're talking serious crime does anyone really believe that killing
> abortion doctors is no worse than killing random strangers?
Where did this come from? Killing anyone is wrong, both in God's word and
against the law, whether you are a abortion doctor or a conservative. It amazes
me how you can think like this!
Scott S.
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