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Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:23:31 GMT
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This is a kind of digression, I think...this thread seems to be going all over the place. =)

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz wrote:
   I’m inclined to say “at least until proper laws are put in place to keep anyone at all from suing over your injuries” should be replaced with “at least until proper laws are put in place to appropriately distribute liability”

Which provides support for the idea of socialized medicine, because if the health services needed to recover from an injury are free they cannot be sued for, right? Was that your point, Frank?

I don’t actually want socialized medicine, not in an ideal situation. But as I have noted often of late, if we are going to be taxed like a socialist country, then I also want the services that would justify the cost of government.

   Why? Well, by your logic, I could argue we should have laws requiring pedestrians to wear helmets also.

Exactly. The orgy of government overprotection we are currently engaged in results in things like this:

A VAT on fat?
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2988314.stm

The British Medical Association (BMA) is discussing a proposal to charge 17.5% VAT on high-fat foods such as biscuits, cakes and processed meals. A doctors’ conference last week discussed a motion by Dr Martin Breach which said: “Given the epidemic of obesity related disease in the UK, this conference strongly supports the concept of a tax on saturated fats, in effect a VAT on fat.” This is an outrage.

Interestingly, when you have socialized medicine what you are doing with your body *IS* your neighbor’s business because the cost of health maintenance is being spread to him and everyone else. Right? I can easily see where behavior might be regulated, not for moral grounds (but you never know...), but in the interest of keeping rising health care costs down.

I am not positive of this fact, but I think some of the taxes on tobacco in the U.S. are predicated on discouraging people from the use the product. Now, I dont think that there’s a problem in regulating the use of tobacco in public spaces, but discouraging people from using a product and doing what they should freely be able to do in their own spaces is outrageous to me. Frankly, it’s no one else’s business. Fairly warned of the consequences of their actions, people should smoke until they drop dead for all I care. note: I admit, I am a non-smoker.

What’s next? A condom tax? You know, even with a condom I might catch some deadly form of the clap, or something else that doesn’t kill me but is contagious and raises health care costs -- which might be even worse to the perceived bottom line.

Is this a private or public matter?

-- Hop-Frog



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(...) I'm inclined to say "at least until proper laws are put in place to keep anyone at all from suing over your injuries" should be replaced with "at least until proper laws are put in place to appropriately distribute liability" Why? Well, by (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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