(...) Not what I meant at all. All I meant was that having these discussions will have very little impact since people are dumb and will often follow the best leader (which I didn't mention). Now, the smart people are not necessarily going to change (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
(...) If it's truly futile to have these discussions, then aren't we being dumb by having them? That's what I'm reading from your position, that these discussions are futile because not enough of us are involved. Frank (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
