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Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
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Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:18:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > > > Ever play "King of the Hill" with a *really* big guy (an adult)? The adult
> > > > *stays* king and all of the little guys have fun trying to topple him. He
> > > > may feign that he is almost fallen, but that, too, is part of the game.
> > > > The end result is that he is there to ensure that the kids have a good
> > > > time. The adult is in full control of the game. *That* is the best way to
> > > > play it.
> > >
> > > For the adult, perhaps. But in that case, the adult is behaving like a
> > > jackass.
> >
> > Really? In what way?
>
> Oh, let me count the ways:
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> 1. The adult can obviously overpower the children, so any overpowering
> action taken by the adult must be greatly tempered by thoughtful restraint
But of course; it's a game.
> 2. If the adult has any kind of maturity, he wouldn't simply squash and
> exploit the children, all the while laughing from atop his mountain
But of course!
> 3. The adult, in his hubris, can certainly be undone by a coordinated
> effort of children, especially if those children are more patient and
> thoughtful than the adult
Now that's when it *really* gets fun for the kids! And they are actually
learning something about cooperation and teamwork!
> 4. The adult has no authority to impose his will over the children, even
> though he's king of the mountain. Might does not make right
Never said that. It's a game.
> 5. The adult is just a barely-grown-up child himself, and he should
> remember this at all times
But of course. It would take an adult with a heart of a child to play such a
game anyway.
> 6. Even if the adult is stronger than the children in the aggregate, he
> still has no right to force his culture, economics, religion, values,
> government, corporations, or morality down the throats of the children
Okay, now you lost me and I think I lost you. We were talking about a game.
Now you are making the comparisons to my model. I never said it was directly
analogous. In order to make a comparison, *I* wouldn't choose a child's game.
JOHN
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