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| | | Here is an article that really makes one think. (URL) of posting the article refers to the January 22 article. -Mike Petrucelli (22 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | (...) Taiwan, but the again more than half of China is uninhabitable. And Switzerland became rich charging toll rights to those who wanted to cross the Alps. Williams' arguments have less strenght under these facts, wouldn't you say? Pedro (22 years ago, 1-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | (...) So the population density of inhabitable China would be roughly double which is still about half that of Taiwan and remains insignificant compared to Hong Kong. (...) Assuming that is actually where most of their whealth is derived, is it not (...) (22 years ago, 2-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | | (...) Hong Kong is a city - it can't be compared to an entire country. Of which it is a part of, BTW. And I said OVER half of China is uninhabitaBLE, not uninhabitED - the last portion is even greater than the first. If you check where the majority (...) (22 years ago, 2-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | | | (...) is (...) Hong Kong is the name of the city AND the country. (...) OK I will agree that the example is obviously distorted in favor of Williams' argument, however that still doesn't explain the country of Hong Kong's success despite its (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, Hong Kong is a city and a Special Administrative Region OF China. The British handed the territory over to Chine, they did not grant it independance. Perhaps you're thinking Singapore? (...) Again, it's a city. Any comparison can be made (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Nope, I sure don't. I am not keen on Ponzi schemes. (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Simon Bennett
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| | | | | | (...) Of course it is, but it is pure luck on their part that they are placed there. Assuming that this where their wealth derives it has not come from their ingenuity or their political system. (...) I tend to think there is a link but that you (...) (22 years ago, 4-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —David Eaton
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| | | | (...) In my utterly limited study of dynamic systems analysis, I remember several examples (most of which I forget the specifics of, tho remember the jist) where the 'gut reaction' was to help people/societies/etc by giving money/aid/etc, which just (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —David Koudys
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| | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes: <snip> (...) I can't remember the day, but I was watching "live, on television" when the world broke 5 billion folks. They had this counter going up like a Lotto or something... Like wow, we have 5 (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Poverty myths? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | (...) There are two other indicators that can be of help here: the "age pyramid" (dividing the population in classes of 5 years), and the "Active-to-passive" ratio. This last one takes into account the contribute of the immigrants to the society, (...) (22 years ago, 3-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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