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Re: Vote against/for...
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Date: 
Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:23:32 GMT
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C'mon John, stop making me defend Scott, it's really annoying. (while he did
correctly point out that no one is perfect, he forgot to add that some of us
are closer than others)

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:

I will not relent on this.  Explain exactly what skin color has to do with the
point of your little assertion.  Isn't your real beef with the rich?  Aren't
you in essence merely inciting class warfare?  It's such a tired liberal
argument that is IMO coming home to bite liberal Democrats in this country.

To
deny that members of all other races are doing quite well in this country and
that millions of whites are not is quite simply race baiting and you should
retract.

Straw dog. That's not what he said...

He merely pointed out that still, even after all the progress that we've
made in this country, it helps to be white. That's wrong. Plain and simple.

How to fix it? I dunno. It's clear (to me anyway) that welfare and
affirmative action, are at this point, making things worse rather than better.

He also pointed out that it helps to be rich. I'm OK with that. Well, sort
of OK anyway. There's good honest rich and not so good dishonest rich. Up
with the former, from which all good things flow, and down with the latter.



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  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) In what way *specifically* does it help to be white? I would say that, all things being equal, it *hurts* to be white. In PC corporate America, if you had 2 applicants for a job, both equal in all ways but 1 black and 1 white, whom do you (...) (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) I thought that was self-evident. I read a quote the other day which I liked. It's from Ted Turner: "If I only had a little humility, I'd be perfect." Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 10-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Look, for every "Ghandi" type example you give, I could give you 100s where the little guy gets squashed. There is no "real power", just power. (...) Your little parody fell on deaf ears because it isn't even *remotely* analogous. (...) I will (...) (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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