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Subject:	Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:39:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, "Tom McDonald" <radiotitan@spamcake.yahoo.com> writes: > I don't believe that predestination is a process that shapes and guides us. I > believe predestination has only to do with knowing what shall happen, not > altering or guiding what shall happen. This doesn't mean that it's pre- > planned, just foreknown. Say, if it took God six days to create the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them, this would seem to indicate that God isn't infinitely fast...that good things take time. Maybe He could make the Universe blink *out* of existence instantly, but if Creation took six whole days, then how could everything after that be foreknown? (Unless part of Creation also consisted of the rigorous process of going about to foreknow everything, and maybe that took 5.9999999999 of the 6 days. :-) Say, is a God day equal to an Earth day? Or is it something much smaller like an attosecond or something? If God could create the heavens and the earth in six attoseconds, then I'd be more likely to believe that He could foreknow everything. --Todd

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		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) If I were to wax philosophical, like Mr. Lehman, days would seem like millennia, if I were to wax philosophical. ;-) Perhaps -- and this is purely guesswork -- time was conceived to allow good things to happen. It's pretty much stated in (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) I (...) Hehe. If you so intimately knew your creation, say Lugnet for instance, wouldn't you know what it would do ahead of time given just about any situation? Maybe you could anticipate what it would do 95, 96, 97, or even 100% of the time. (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
Ever wonder who the person was who was recording the creation event as it happened? Wasn't Adam or Eve either, because they weren't created until "day" 6. The creation account in Genesis _is a story_. An oral tradition passed down 100s of years (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) stretch (...) I'm talking about knowing how something will react before it happens. For two examples, it's like saying you know Lego can stand temps up to 104 degrees F without ever having testing it if you had sufficient knowledge of the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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