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Re: Averages and Capitalism (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:15:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richie Dulin writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > <snip>
> > > I disagree and I see no further proof necessary other than to point out that
> > > the closer one gets to a pure capitalist system the better off on average
> > > everyone is, and the closer one gets to a pure socialist system the worse
> > > off on average everyone is. That's pretty generally accepted, I think,
> > > because we have so much empirical proof all around us.
> >
> > I'd generally accept that ;-).
> >
> > But in accepting that, I have to accept that, as one gets closer and closer
> > to a pure capitalist system, there are more and more people who are worse
> > off than average.
>
> That's not entirely accurate, but even if it was, it's not a good metric.
> The average standard of living in the US is significantly higher than, say,
> China.
Ok. Now say Sweeden... it's not below the US standards. And it's just as
much socialist as it is capitalist.
> I don't tend to agree with Larry on political ideals, but as a goverment
> moves closer to pure socialism, the potential abuse becomes greater. This
> is not to say that socialism is more prone to abuse than capitalism, but
> that abuse in a pure socialist system is farther reaching. It is easier to
> become a tinpot dictator coming from a socialist gov't than a capitalist one.
That's absurd.
Was there at any point in history a nation which *democratically* chose
socialism, and later had a socialist dictatorship? No. There are however
numerous cases of dictators who nominally adopted socialism *after* they
seized power, or in order to do it - but that's a whole different matter.
Pedro
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