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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:58:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

<snip>


> Separation of Church and State.
> 
> A permanent mural (contrast with an informational exhibit, this was
> decorative) with Noah on it in a public school (we had one (past tense,
> thanks to my wife) in our local elementary) is a State endorsement of a
> particular religion. Not allowed under the constitution.
> 
> Banning clubs of students from holding meetings, whatever the topic matter
> (christian, Jedi, secular humanist, libertarian, communist, softball, chess,
> Lego, MegaBlocks) is State repression of that particular viewpoint. Not
> allowed under the constitution.
> 
> This is just a restatement of what was said by Dave!  (The 9th circuit was
> right both times for essentially the same reason.)
> 
> Note that the mere fact of holding a meeting means that the club is
> consuming resources (and thus money) of the school system, so the point of
> whether the school FUNDS the club is moot, it already does so when it gives
> space.
> 
> The key point is that the schools are a public good, funded by taxpayers,
> whether those taxpayers think it's a good idea or not (I for one don't)...
> and as such, cannot show any preference for one viewpoint over another.
> Private schools are under no such compunction.
> 
> If the public school allows any club whatever to hold meetings (or apply for
> funding) it must allow the same to all clubs as long as they are otherwise
> law abiding. (the Rape Club, whose purpose is to rape whoever they can drag
> in off the street, of whatever gender, need not apply for space)
> 
> Seems pretty straightforward to me.

It took Larry to uncloud the muddy waters???

What's the world coming to??

That was perfectly said ++Lar.

Dave K.



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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> (...) Ooops, fergot the smiley Should've read: (...) Again, IMHO, what Larry said is what I would've if I could've... Though here's a debate... Hypothetically, a teacher askes her grade 3 (...) (24 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) OK. But you're a socialist, right? Since belief that a socialist system can actually work is counterfactual, holding such a belief is a kind of religion since it requires faith. (...) Separation of Church and State. A permanent mural (contrast (...) (24 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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