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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Date: 
Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:58:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

<snip>


Separation of Church and State.

A permanent mural (contrast with an informational exhibit, this was
decorative) with Noah on it in a public school (we had one (past tense,
thanks to my wife) in our local elementary) is a State endorsement of a
particular religion. Not allowed under the constitution.

Banning clubs of students from holding meetings, whatever the topic matter
(christian, Jedi, secular humanist, libertarian, communist, softball, chess,
Lego, MegaBlocks) is State repression of that particular viewpoint. Not
allowed under the constitution.

This is just a restatement of what was said by Dave!  (The 9th circuit was
right both times for essentially the same reason.)

Note that the mere fact of holding a meeting means that the club is
consuming resources (and thus money) of the school system, so the point of
whether the school FUNDS the club is moot, it already does so when it gives
space.

The key point is that the schools are a public good, funded by taxpayers,
whether those taxpayers think it's a good idea or not (I for one don't)...
and as such, cannot show any preference for one viewpoint over another.
Private schools are under no such compunction.

If the public school allows any club whatever to hold meetings (or apply for
funding) it must allow the same to all clubs as long as they are otherwise
law abiding. (the Rape Club, whose purpose is to rape whoever they can drag
in off the street, of whatever gender, need not apply for space)

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

It took Larry to uncloud the muddy waters???

What's the world coming to??

That was perfectly said ++Lar.

Dave K.



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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> (...) Ooops, fergot the smiley Should've read: (...) Again, IMHO, what Larry said is what I would've if I could've... Though here's a debate... Hypothetically, a teacher askes her grade 3 (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) OK. But you're a socialist, right? Since belief that a socialist system can actually work is counterfactual, holding such a belief is a kind of religion since it requires faith. (...) Separation of Church and State. A permanent mural (contrast (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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