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John: You are looking at past history and past rhetoric with blinders on. Part of The Enlightenment project was to break with the "divine right of kings." That's why there is language of that type floating around. I am not saying that there weren't (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First, there is no "requirement". The state will not force you to speak those words (in fact it *allows* you to *not* speak them). A perfect analogy would be if Congress passed that same law but then included, "But if he feels uncomfortable (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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(...) No, Richard, it hasn't. I am not arguing that TJ was a Christian or any such thing. What I am saying is that he acknowledged a Creator-- Prime Mover, God, Nature's God-- whatever you want to call it. And it is from this entity that our (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It has to be said, and both of you have done it with grace, compassion, tolerance and humanity. Hopefully the citizens of the world can do the same. A Canadian sending honours and sympathy, -Gil (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Any tribute to the heroic efforts displayed that day deserves recognition. A very nice display showing the infamous bucket brigade that helped uncover the debris in an effort to find fallen brothers and sisters in humanity. They did this with (...) (23 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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