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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:30:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, William R. Ward writes:
"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> writes:
  Hooray--we agree!  That's been my intended point all along, in both this
exchange and in the previous debate a month or so ago!  I absolutely,
totally, completely, and unequivocally support your right to religious
freedom and freedom of speech!  What I reject is the State's attempt to
mandate one religion (monotheism) when in fact the State has no right even
to offer an official opinion on the issue.

I have no problem with people believing in whatever religion they
want.  However, when the State, through the public school system,
offers *financial* support for an institution of religion, then that
crosses the line.  The Bible Club should be permitted to meet but
should not have access to student body money.  The Court was wrong
here, IMNSHO.


And some would call that 'reverse discrimination'
Just because a group of students has a student run group and they want to
discuss their belief in God, and they can't get school support on par with
students who want to have a Camera club, Chess club or whatever club it may
be, is just as discriminatory.

If the school board says there can be school based clubs as long as the
clubs don't exclude anybody, and that's what they hold to, then the groups
that want to discuss God 'n such are of equal par to any other group.

The Pledge isn't as big of a deal to me: I can simply keep my mouth
shut while the xians are saying "under god".  I would prefer to have
that removed officially, but I won't get too upset about it.

Me either.


The "In god we trust" thing on money bothers me.  That should be
removed.

Agreed


--Bill.

Dave K.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) "Reverse Discrimination": A politically correct term for the right wing meant to really say, "We done stole it fair and square, so no trying to redress the crime." ;-) Actually, I don't see how "reverse discrimination" applies here whatever (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) There is nothing in the Constitution about supporting a hobby or game. There is something about supporting a religion. And that's how it should be - religion is a much more controversial topic than chess or cameras. --Bill. (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) I have no problem with people believing in whatever religion they want. However, when the State, through the public school system, offers *financial* support for an institution of religion, then that crosses the line. The Bible Club should be (...) (22 years ago, 10-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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