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Re: POV-RAY orange color
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Date: 
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:56:49 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

I'll ask again. What part of the Bible is allegorical and what part is
literal? How is the unschooled reader to know the difference? Can't
really apply a reasonableness test, because almost nothing it in (even
the parts that I think you are claiming are essentially or completely
true) is amenable to reason, explanation, or the scientific method.

Moot.  Doesn't matter.  Scholars *have* studied the Bible critically and have come
up with many illuminating ideas, BUT it only takes you so far.  How many times must
I say that one *cannot* apply science to that which is untestable BY DEFINITION.
And 1) to say that, because it can't be held up to the scrutiny of science, it is
therefore invalid is a invalid premise in and of itself, and 2) to assume (and
arrogantly to the point of humor) that science can answer all questions is invalid.
Just because you can't explain something using science *doesn't* mean it doesn't
exist.  Doesn't mean it does either, and that's where the infamous leap of faith
occurs.  I don't *need* proof (I *can't* have proof), otherwise it wouldn't be
FAITH.

So whether or not something actually happened or not really doesn't matter one way
or the other.

-John

This is because God's
Spirit is still active today, guiding and influencing.

Are you stating an opinion here or a verifiable fact? If the latter,
could you provide some proof, please?

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  Taking things on faith (was Re: POV-RAY orange color
 
You're free to reject science, that's your choice. (and saying there are things higher than science, is, ultimately, to reject it. When the safe is falling down on your head, feel free to count on your faith to save you. I think I'll step aside (...) (25 years ago, 21-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: POV-RAY orange color
 
(...) That's certainly a matter of interpretation. Were I more than normally interested in baiting you I'd say GIGO, but I won't. I will merely say that the Bible is not an easy read and that scholars do a great deal of debating about what errors (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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