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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Gerlach writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > > In lugnet.trains.org, John Neal writes:
> > > > > > > In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have traditionally played this very game (right down to freezing things
> > > > > > > at 3) every christmas with our relatives. Some really duff gifts are usually
> > > > > > > in the pile somewhere to make things more amusing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the slight. You are, however, grammatically incorrect.
> > > > >
> > > > > ??
> > > >
> > > > I'm guessing Mr. Neal is referring to the non-capitalization of "Christmas"...
> > >
> > > Yes, that's what he indicated to me offline. My immediate family only
> > > celebrates the secular traditions that exist and are celebrated at that time
> > > of year, and "winter solstice celebration" is a bit too hard to type. :-)
> >
> > But would it kill ya to put a Capital C on Christmas?
>
> No it wouldn't, but it would be incorrect in my view, when referring to
> things that happened around that time. We don't celebrate the christian
> christmas.
>
> > I mean, being the (tm) truant for LUGNET(tm) and Guild of Bricksmiths(tm),
> > you, Larry, of all people, should realize the vexing incurred by those that
> > read something like that.
>
> It's not a trademarked name.
>
> Unlike Father's Day(tm) which Hallmark(tm) invented. (just kidding about the
> trademark on Father's Day, although Hallmark DOES invent holidays... all the
> time... Sweetest Day is their invention)
>
> > Think of it like Monday. I mean, monday is gramatically incorrect, as is
> > christmas or xmas or xians or whatever--don't even worry about doing it
> > right 'cause of the perceived trashing of Christianity.
>
> It's not at all like Monday either.
>
> In this usage it is more like "winter" which one doesn't capitalize either.
> I used it as a generic term for a bunch of days around the end of the year.
>
> That's three strikes, thanks for playing. :-)
>
> But now that you mention it I don't capitalize ANY religion as a general
> rule. Take it as an insult if you like. It's not intended as one, but feel
> free just the same.
<pedant> Doing so is presumably taking a position on the whole religion
thang (albiet a pretty mild expression thereof), and of course your right to
free expression and all that jazz. But Dave is still correct in that
Christmas is a proper noun and should be capitalized. Regardless of
religious influence, all holidays are considered proper nouns. </pendant>
So you're being gramatically incorrect. :)
James
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