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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:56:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > >
> > > What term would *you* use for a homicidal, innocent-butchering group who
> > > believes that they are acting on behalf of God?
> > >
> > > > > Xtians?
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> In fairness, John was looking for groups, not individuals. Any bigish group is
> going to have some fruitcakes.
> > > What gets my undies in a bunch is when ignorant people group *all*
> > > Christians together. Because one sorely misguided wacko such as Andrea
> > > Yates, who claims to be a Christian offs all of her kids, that must mean
> > > that *ALL* Christians are guilty of slaughtering innocents. It just
> > > doesn't wash, and it's disingenuous to imply so.
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> I agree. And I don't think that anyone was really doing that.
That's bull, Chris. Look at RM's reply to my question that *started* this
whole thing:
Me: What term would *you* use for a homicidal, innocent-butchering group who
believes that they are acting on behalf of God?
RM: Xtians?
Richard was
> pointing out that if you go back just a little bit, you can find pretty good
> examples of slaughter in every religion. I happen to think that any religion
> (or other social grouping) where the adherents feel persecuted and threatened
> is fairly likely to be naughty in large groups. Christianity did it earlier in
> history when it felt threatened. Islam may be doing the same now and for
> similar reasons.
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> > 99.9% of all professed Christians would condemn her actions.
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> But 99.9% of Muslims and atheists would too.
That's my point. I am not condemning *all* of Islam, just the radicals who are
terrorizing.
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> The biggest difference is that you specified _extremist_. I can point to
> _extremist_ Christians and say that a larger than .1% of them support the
> bombing of abortion clinics. Is there still a difference?
No!! Thank you for getting my point! I *am* talking about extremists!!!
Extremist Christians who bomb abortion clinics are just as guilty as the scum
who were responsible for 9-11.
Yet RM accuses Christians (no qualifications as to extreme or not) as being
homicidal innocent butcherers. All I have been trying to point out that one
cannot categorically condemn an entire group for the actions of a few, and yet
it is *I* who gets accused of broad stroke generalizations of groups.
Whatever.
-John
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