Debate : 16769


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Subject:	Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:48:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: > > You can say that Chris is wrong, but you're either lying, benighted, or > > simply misinformed. When he signed the Bill in 1954, President Eisenhower > > wrote that "millions of our schoolchildren will daily proclaim in every city > > and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation > > and our people to the Almighty." That's not "whomever you deem it to be." > > It's "THE" [so-called] Almighty. > > Notice, however, the addition wasn't "in Jesus God" or "in Christ Almighty". > That may be what Eisenhower had in his mind, but that isn't necessarily what > it should mean to others. It is in the spirit of walking the thin line begun > by our FFs. Oh, please. "God The Almighty" is undeniably the God of The Bible, and if you claim otherwise then you're bearing false witness--two Commandments in one day, John--and still you cast stones? Point me to one other deity in the history of mankind referred to as God the Almighty, and then maybe your case will seem more credible, but not likely. And even if you could, by your own assertion in http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=16766 the notion of a single supreme God is "a dilemma" to those who believe in no such entity, so the phrase is ultimately, fundamentally, and undeniably exclusionary, and it should therefore be stricken from the text. Dave!

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) As I mentioned before, it is to me (and to Ike as well). Perhaps not to you. But the phrase in question is "under God" anyway, so the point is moot. (...) And even if you could, by your own assertion in (...) Not exactly. I said it would be a (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Notice, however, the addition wasn't "in Jesus God" or "in Christ Almighty". That may be what Eisenhower had in his mind, but that isn't necessarily what it should mean to others. It is in the spirit of walking the thin line begun by our FFs. (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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