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Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:09:03 GMT
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johnneal@^StopSpammers^uswest.net
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Simon Robinson wrote:
> > > OK - I'll bite on that one. I would agree that the traditional
> > > nuclear family as a good foundation on which to build a stable society.
> > > However, I can't see any reason why a family with - say - two gay men
> > > at its head shouldn't be equally good, and although you don't say so
> > > explicitly, you seem to be implying that you'd regard it as inferior.
> >
> > First, explain to me how 2 gay men "create" a family. Not possible. Unless, • you
> > say, if they adopt. In my perfect world, there would be no children for such
> > "couples" to adopt, because orphaned children would be care for by immediate
> > family first, and barren hetereos wishing children second. I would say a • hetereo
> > couple wanting a child is preferrable to a gay couple wanting a child; if • that's
> > considered thinking the latter is inferior, then yes.
>
> I believe I asked you to justify what could be inferior about 2 gay men as the
> head of a family unit, not simply to restate the fact that you believed that :)
Ok, fine. I think a child deserves to have a mother and a father. Doesn't matter
how much a man can care for a child, a woman does it differently, in a way a man
can't. And vice versa. I guess I never analyzed the reason very closely, it just
seemed obvious. I think same sex partners who want to raise children are selfish
and do not have the best interests of the children in mind. I would question
their motives.
> > > Why? Isn't how people treat each other and members of their families
> > > the important thing rather than their sexual orientation?
> >
> > Yes, but it's more complicated than that. All things being equal, would you
> > prefer a hetereo or a gay couple to raise a child?
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> I can't see any difference - as long as they are raising the child properly.
> If I could see a difference I wouldn't have asked you :)
Okay, the difference is: one couple is a man and a woman, the other is a man and a
man or a woman and a woman.
> > > > A lot of people do stupid things and their lives are train wrecks. A lot • of
> > > people are
> > > > unhappy. Christianity offers a way to lead a meaningful life, not judgment • of an empty
> > > > one.
> > >
> > > Whether one agrees with that statement is true, surely you'd have
> --------------------------------------------------------->~~~~~~
> > > agree that it can only be relevant if people _choose_ to live
> > > according to Christian principles - it's pointless forcing them to
> > > do so by enacting laws (eg. anti-gay laws or anti-suicide laws)
> > > if they don't agree with those principles.
> > > (At least where other people are not being harmed)
> >
> > I do. And stop calling me Shirley;-)
>
> Uh????
sorry:-) little joke. See above;-)
-John
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> Simon
> http://www.SimonRobinson.com
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| (...) matter (...) man (...) just (...) Hmmm - I have to admit to being impressed there. That's about the first time I can ever remember seeing someone write down a reason for gay couples not adopting which sounds vaguely plausible, thought out, and (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) you (...) hetereo (...) that's (...) I believe I asked you to justify what could be inferior about 2 gay men as the head of a family unit, not simply to restate the fact that you believed that :) (...) I can't see any difference - as long as (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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