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| | | (...) LFB, Kirby is a little too conspiracy prone for my taste also (really, it's his one obvious debate flaw), but that doesn't mean that he is wrong -- the fact is, Kirby is right in most of the broader strokes of his statements, even if he screws (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: ??? (was Re: An armed society...(what if?)) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Hey, I resent that. I can be just as annoying and fierce privately as publicly. Dave! (22 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: ??? —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | (...) I hope that my rail against the intentionalist part of his statements doesn't come across as a "hunky-dory" sense of complacency. If you look at the end of my other message, you'll see the point--there are problems, and they DO need to be (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: ??? —Kirby Warden
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| | | | | | (...) <snip> (...) I think you've read me wrong. I don't fear a "systemic failure" (I assume you mean the collapse of society?) What I fear is the *enslavement* of our society. At many levels we are already slaves. So long as we depend upon (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: ??? —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | (...) Actually, given the basis of the USA as constituted--its core principles--I'd argue that enslavement would, in fact, constitute the collapse of our society. (But I did read you in the "enslavement" sense, actually.) But it would require some (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: ??? —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) I think I want some clarification here-- society forces its members to abide by its rules, written, spoken, inferred, whatever. It's the nature of a society. And as the society grows, it becomes harder to avoid. But isn't part of that reason (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: ??? (was Re: An armed society...(what if?)) —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | (...) Well I am certainly glad you did. You explained much that I know to be true, (and a good bit that I did not) but could not convey as effectively as you. Writing is just not my strong subject. (barring fiction of course :-) ) (...) Amen. (...) (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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