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Re: An armed society...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:33:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > Democracy is the limit. In the UK governments have fallen due to protests,
> > not armed rebellion.
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> Does Charles the First count as a fallen government and parliment as an
> armed rebellion? :-)
No. In the British context, the Government is the Prime Minister
and the Secretaries he or she assembles. The Monarch is, well, the
Monarch.
And it's not an armed rebellion, it was a Civil War. ;)
> Was America part of the UK and did the UK government (locally) fall because
> of the rebellion or was it never in power?
No. "United Kingdom" refers only to those lands unified under the
Crown (and, legally, those so unified by Act); therefore, there
was no United Kingdom before 1707 (Union with Scotland); Ireland
was added to the Union in 1800 (and removed in 1922). Wales,
uh, Wales was incorporated well before that time and is, I believe,
legally part of England in spite of its cultural variance.
The UK authorities were the Governors-General, and that's about
as far as it went. Actual local governance varied, but governments
more accurately dissolved rather than "falling" (and were often
reconstituted after the Revolution).
best
LFB (being academic)
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| (...) Does Charles the First count as a fallen government and parliment as an armed rebellion? :-) Was America part of the UK and did the UK government (locally) fall because of the rebellion or was it never in power? Bruce (not being particularly (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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