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Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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Date: 
Fri, 16 Jul 1999 05:50:34 GMT
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John Neal wrote:

Scott-

As a fellow Christian, I am curious as to which ideas of the LP you find unchristian.

I'll answer for him, leaving it open for him to answer for himself.

The LP is religion neutral to the extent that it recognises that
individual belief systems vary and should be respected. But it has some
thoughts on behaviours that may be considered a bit anti-christian. (I
know Pat Robertson would consider them as such)

Here is one for you that I know gets you, John Neal, all spun up:

- Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, not a sin. As such, it is no
better and no worse than any other arrangment that consenting adults
make about how they will live together, share assets and approaches,
raise a family if they so choose, and commit to each other. As such it
should not receive special treatment, whether preferential or
discriminatory, by the government.

Here's another:

- People have the right to die by their own hand if they so choose.
Christianity views suicide as a sin.

Here's another more generic, from which the others derive:
- Nothing, repeat, NOTHING, that a person chooses to do of their own
free will and which does not infringe on the rights of others should be
forbidden. It may be stupid, it may be life threatening, but so be it. I
is not the place of government to legislate morality, except in that the
proper function of government is to help ensure non-infringment (by
enforcing the common law prohibitions against things such as murder,
rape, assault, burglary, arson, etc..) of individual rights.

Some important corrolaries that a lot of christians have trouble with
are ideas like it is not proper for government to legislate morality,
including such things as what the operating hours of stores are (Grand
Rapids until recently had ordinances prohibiting Sunday operation of a
wide class of stores), what sort of businesses are legitimate, and what
sorts of interpersonal relationships are appropriate.

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  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
Larry, Like I said, the fetal tissue research I did not like. I think that is a BIG one. You might be surprised, Larry, but here is my views on what you said: 1) According to the Bible, Homosexuality is a sin and is detestable to God. (I can verse (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) If a Democratic government decides (ie the will of the people, the *majority*) to sanction hetereo marriages and not homosexual ones, what's wrong with that? I think a case can be made that the traditional nuclear family is a good foundation (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
Scott- As a fellow Christian, I am curious as to which ideas of the LP you find unchristian. -John (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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