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Re: Cultures, words, meanings and ownership (was Was Re: "piffle!" (bowdlerised for your protection)
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Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:01:30 GMT
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In lugnet.technic.bionicle, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> John's right, this IS debate fodder. He should have set XFUT, but I will.
> 
> XFUT o-t.debate and let's keep it out of other groups if it veers into the
> subject areas... that would be my strong preference and I suspect many
> others as well.

reposting my debatable comments

> In lugnet.technic.bionicle, John Neal writes:
> 
> > , yet, when a company, like
> > > Lego decides to rip-off names from another culture, words that have deep
> > > religous meaning to them, you think they are the ones that are wrong.  Well,
> > 
> > As many are pointing out elsewhere in this thread, it is absurd to believe that
> > a "culture" "owns" anything.  What a load of hooey!

Why is it more absurd than a corporation's claim to a trademark? Note that
the Treaty of Waitangi (1840) http://www.govt.nz/aboutnz/treaty.php3
explicitly acknowledges Maori entitlement to cultural heritage, which
includes their language.
http://www.knowledge-basket.co.nz/waitangi/reports/wai11.html

If LEGO can acknowledge the importance of cultural sensitivity, why is it a
problem for so many AFOLs (one or two in particular)?

> > > I say shame on Lego, first to use the names and then to deny where they
> > > originated, saying they made them up.  You should really be saying, shame on
> > > Lego.  Here, I thought they came up with all this stuff on their own to find
> > > out they plagiarized it all.  Just like you can't copy someone else's work
> > > in school, the business world is just the same.
> > 
> > Except that this "culture" who thinks they have a case mostly certainly isn't a
> > *business*.

Why should corporations be privileged over other cultural groups with a
distinct identity?

--DaveL



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  Re: Cultures, words, meanings and ownership (was Was Re: "piffle!" (bowdlerised for your protection)
 
(...) (il)logical extreme, should we have the right to stop movies being made depicting our culture? I suppose Scottish examples would be "Braveheart", "Whisky Galore" or even “Brigadoon” (prospective tartan clad tourists please note the place does (...) (25 years ago, 30-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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