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Subject:	Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:48:41 GMT
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> the right to bear arms is > fundamental to the guarantee of the free state (in fact, one need only > read the first paragraph of The Declaration of Independence to see one > such supporting statement: "When in the Course of human Events, it > becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which > have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the > Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of > Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind > requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the > Separation"). Not a single word of arms there. What do you read between the lines? > Another point which may not be so obvious is that the government which > trusts it's citizens with the power to overthrow the government becomes > more worthy of those citizens trust. Maybe, but even with the arms you US civilians do have, do you think that is realistic? :wq Horst

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) It was, but sight of that point was lost and unconstitutional restrictions imposed on what sorts of arms can be owned have now made it less realistic. That's the whole POINT of this debate, after all. (23 years ago, 19-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) Yes. If a large chunk (say, 50%) of the US population used handguns and rifles to overthrow the national government for the sake of instilling a better one, I'm sure that we would defeat the military. They would not posess the will to put the (...) (23 years ago, 19-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
(...) While I don't have any knowledge of the laws of Canada and the UK, I'm pretty confident the rights enshrined in the US Constitution are not as well protected in Canada and the UK. (...) The right to bear arms is not the "almost single one (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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