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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:45:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

1997 Homicide (male)
USA : 11.8 per 100,000
England & Wales : 0.8 per 100,000 (6.8% of the USA level)
Scotland : 2.8 per 100,000 (23.27% of the USA level)
NI : 2.5 per 100,000 (21.19% of the USA level)
Iceland (1995) : 0.0 per 100,000!

I expect that there is much more to these numbers than just the gun issue.

Interesting.

A) Does the difference in these stats and the ones I cited suggest that one set
is incorrect, or do you think the difference between violent crimes (my stats)
and murder (your stats) is really that lopsided?  It makes it sound like lots
of assaults and robberies happen in the UK that don't end in fatalities, while
fewer happen in the US but many more end in murder.

B) I wonder if US criminals are morelikely to kill (if that's so) because of
the difference in our handling of criminal justice.

C) It appears that many more Brits die of sickness.  Why?  Is the UK just a
wildly more contaminated place (could be, given history and density -- I just
don't know)?  I know it couldn't be a faulty health care system...I read
somewhere recently that the healthcare system in the UK was really good!

Chris



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  Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment (was a slur of a subject line
 
(...) Well it could just be those pesky UN statistics... but I just went to the Red Cross site to check on blood donation criteria and they don't want your blood if you have spent more than 3 months total in the UK or Ireland since 1980 (or 6 months (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) I think we touched on this before. I think the 1st step in understanding your stats is to know what each country defines as a violent crime *and* what proportion of crime is reported – but these factors may well have been taken into account in (...) (23 years ago, 19-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) Well it looks like she is less likely to be murdered. By chance I found this: (URL) know some numbskulls don't like UN stats, but it gives us this: 1997 Homicide (male) USA : 11.8 per 100,000 England & Wales : 0.8 per 100,000 (6.8% of the USA (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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