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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 19 Oct 2001 07:59:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > 1997 Homicide (male)
> > USA : 11.8 per 100,000
> > England & Wales : 0.8 per 100,000 (6.8% of the USA level)
> > Scotland : 2.8 per 100,000 (23.27% of the USA level)
> > NI : 2.5 per 100,000 (21.19% of the USA level)
> > Iceland (1995) : 0.0 per 100,000!
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> > I expect that there is much more to these numbers than just the gun issue.
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> Interesting.
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> A) Does the difference in these stats and the ones I cited suggest that one set
> is incorrect, or do you think the difference between violent crimes (my stats)
> and murder (your stats) is really that lopsided? It makes it sound like lots
> of assaults and robberies happen in the UK that don't end in fatalities, while
> fewer happen in the US but many more end in murder.
I think we touched on this before. I think the 1st step in understanding
your stats is to know what each country defines as a violent crime *and*
what proportion of crime is reported – but these factors may well have been
taken into account in your stats? Homicide rates are much easier to compare
& I suspect the statistics may be more accurate (most murders are reported).
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> B) I wonder if US criminals are morelikely to kill (if that's so) because of
> the difference in our handling of criminal justice.
"In for a penny, in for a pound."
> C) It appears that many more Brits die of sickness. Why? Is the UK just a
> wildly more contaminated place (could be, given history and density -- I just
> don't know)? I know it couldn't be a faulty health care system...I read
> somewhere recently that the healthcare system in the UK was really good!
We have the worst diet in the western world, as a result heart disease is
also the amongst the highest in the world. It shocks me to see the rubbish
people feed themselves are their kids in the UK (Scotland is the worst).
Two meals come to mind:
1) Deep fried Mars Bar in batter.
2) Deep fried pizza in batter.
I have tried neither.
From the BBC:
· 38% of coronary heart disease deaths in women are associated with physical
inactivity
· 47% of coronary heart disease deaths in women are linked to high cholesterol
· 6% of coronary heart disease deaths in women are caused by obesity
· 20% of coronary heart disease deaths in men are due to smoking
· 16% of coronary heart disease deaths in men are due to high blood pressure.
Scott A
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> Chris
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