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Re: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?
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Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:26:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Well-- two things. First off, you may be quite right-- I don't really know
what our mentality was at the time. Perhaps that was the best information we
had available, which would mean that an A-bomb hit MAY have been the only
way to show that to the populace. However, after the 1st one didn't work, I
certainly don't think a 2nd attempt was doing much to change things.

Dan's referenced site makes the case that it wasn't a "drop one, then decide
to drop the other" plan. Both were dropped as part of the same plan, so you
should take issue with the plan itself.

Isn't that what I said?

Dan's referenced site (accidentally) makes the case that having Stalin enter
the war was actually a bad thing for the world as the Soviets wanted to
prolong the conventional war so they could gobble more of Manchuria,
Sakhalin, Korea, etc. etc, as well as further consolidating their hold on
the countries they later enslaved in the Warsaw Pact.

It further argues that had the war been concluded even sooner that perhaps
they would not have been in N Korea at all. So if anything maybe we should
have dropped sooner!

Now you're the one who's going for the complicated explanation ;) I could
draw it out further and say isn't one of Osama's major "justifications" with
the US the fact that we dropped the Bomb on the Japanese as an act of
terrorism? What other consequences would have erupted for
prolonging/extending the amount of time 'till we dropped? As pointed out,
two bombs were dropped and they still didn't surrender (at least not
immediately). Were the bombs really providing the motivation? And to pick
back to the side-issue, wasn't what motivation they were providing based on
threat of terror?

DaveE



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(...) No, at least I don't parse it that way. Feel free to diagram the sentence though, so I can see it! (...) The world is a complicated place. Or would you rather Truman hadn't considered all those factors? You can handle the complexity, I think. (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Just some minor picking while I try to think about that hole. (...) Dan's referenced site makes the case that it wasn't a "drop one, then decide to drop the other" plan. Both were dropped as part of the same plan, so you should take issue with (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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