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Re: Hiroshima-Was It Necessary?
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Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:39:37 GMT
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I have not read your link, but I think it was unnecessary to bomb Japan to
win the war. I expect your link will say that the USA knew that the Japanese
wanted peace as they had broken Japanese codes, and that dropping the bomb
was all about impressing Stalin.

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"Certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1
November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not
been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no
invasion had been planned or contemplated."
-U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey's 1946 Study
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"Careful scholarly treatment of the records and manuscripts opened over the
past few years has greatly enhanced our understanding of why Truman
administration used atomic weapons against Japan. Experts continue to
disagree on some issues, but critical questions have been answered. The
consensus among scholars is the that the bomb was not needed to avoid an
invasion of Japan… It is clear that alternatives to the bomb existed and
that Truman and his advisers knew it.
-J. Samuel Walker
Chief Historian
U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission
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"It always appeared to us that, atomic bomb or no atomic bomb, the Japanese
were already on the verge of collapse."
-General Henry H. "Hap" Arnold
Commanding General of the U.S. Army
Air Forces Under President Truman
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"Japan was at the moment seeking some way to surrender with minimum loss of
'face'… It wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing."
-General Dwight D. Eisenhower
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"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and
Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The
Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender… My own feeling was
that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common
to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was taught not to make war in that
fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying woman and children."
-Admiral William D. Leahy
Former Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
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"I am absolutely convinced that had we said they could keep the emperor,
together with the threat of an atomic bomb, they would have accepted, and we
would never have had to drop the bomb."
-John McCloy
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"P.M. [Churchill} & I ate alone. Discussed Manhattan (it is a success).
Decided to tell Stalin about it. Stalin had told P.M. of telegram from Jap
Emperor asking for peace."
-President Harry S. Truman
Diary Entry, July 18, 1945
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"Some of my conclusions may invoke acorn and even ridicule."

"For example, I offer my belief that the existence of the first atomic bombs
may have prolonged -- rather than shortened - World War II by influencing
Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson and President Harry S. Truman to ignore an
opportunity to negotiate a surrender that would have ended the killing in
the Pacific in May or June of 1945."

"And I have come to view the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings that August as
an American tragedy that should be viewed as a moral atrocity."
-Stewart L. Udall
US Congressman and
Author of "Myths of August"
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"I had been conscious of depression and so I voiced to (Sec. Of War Stimson)
my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already
defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly
because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by
the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as
a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at this
very moment, seeking a way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face.' "
-General Dwight D. Eisenhower
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“...the greatest thing in history.”
-Harry S. Truman
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Scott A




In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
I posted earlier in a different thread regarding this but now I'm thinking
it should have been a separate thread. Here is some background research
regarding the decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan:

http://www.doug-long.com/

Its actually pretty extensive and not something one can just skim over, but
makes a sharp argument and worth reading.

Dan



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(...) Just couldn't let this one get past. I prefer walnuts with my ridicule!! 8?) ROSCO FUT: fun (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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I posted earlier in a different thread regarding this but now I'm thinking it should have been a separate thread. Here is some background research regarding the decision to drop the atomic bombs on Japan: (URL) actually pretty extensive and not (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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