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    Hold your fire? —Larry Pieniazek
   (URL) (was?) this analysis correct? What do people think? Is today's action likely to undermine any Taliban crumbling, or is it more of a "take out the air defenses so the aid aircraft won't get shot down" that won't strengthen Taliban resolve? I (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Hold your fire? —Tom Napolitano
     (...) The article seems a bit myopic, lacking in a historical perspective. The basically tribal societies of Afghanistan and indeed the five central Asian former Soviet states could continue see-sawing for centuries. The U.S. and Osama conflict (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Hold your fire? —Scott Arthur
     (...) Read around Larry, they are little better. They are know to rape women in the towns they capture. More here: (URL) many Afghans are anxious to see an end to Taliban rule, they remain feaful about the prospect of a return of the Northern (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Hold your fire? —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) <snip good ref material> My point exactly. They're just different thugs, not necessarily *better* thugs. If I had 4 choices: 1. do nothing and hope for the best. 2. politicoeconomic campaign that causes the Taliban to eventually fall (as the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Hold your fire? —Horst Lehner
      Hello Larry, (...) 2, even though I am NOT sure whether it actually will work. But maybe we are lucky and the current path of 3 turns out to be 4 with less military effort ;-) Greetings Horst (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Hold your fire? —Tom Napolitano
     (...) Scott, I know of the work of Human Rights Watch, but who funds eurasianet? I couldn't find any references on their site. Thanks. There are dozens of tribes in the region and you can't tell who's doing what to whom without a detailed scorecard. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Hold your fire? —Horst Lehner
   Hello Larry, (...) I am equally undecided in my judgement of what is going on. ;-) The good news is: Four weeks after 911, there has been no overreaction. Instead, diplomatic pressure really seems to have had a significant effect. Enough to NOT (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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