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Re: Thank you, Britain.
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Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:22:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:

Most have yet to see any evidence (assuming it exists).

I addressed that in another post (it is deep in the "War" war). Lord
Robertson is either fooled by faked evidence, in on the gag, or the evidence
does actualy exist.

I guess I should've put "conclusive" in there somewhere.

There is a HUGE difference between "no evidence" ("any evidence") and "no
conclusive evidence". That was a very serious omission on your part, I'm
afraid.

No need for fear 8?) The original comment was directed at Mr Blairs assertion
that we should "Be in no doubt Bin Laden and his people organised this
atrocity,", and I'm afraid (!) I can't just dismiss my doubts because he asks
me to.

That's fine. I'm certainly not from the "government can do no wrong" school,
or even the "government is mostly right" camp.

I'm not saying (or I think implying) that US (or NATO, or anyone else) >requires
conclusive proof that bin Laden organised (or was involved in) the Sep 11
terrorism to go in after him. However, as I said above, *I* still have
lingering doubt (no matter how small), and I'm not willing to chuck that out
the window on Mr Blair's say-so.

I have doubt too. I'm just not sure it's *reasonable* doubt, given the large
NUMBER of people (from a lot of different camps) who have seen evidence I
haven't that are all saying they're satisfied.

That said... (we both have doubts), what are you saying then? Is the fact
that we have lingering doubts enough to say "no don't do it yet" or did you
just want to get out in front of folks that you have doubts?

That's valid in and of itself. People SHOULD express doubt and keep
governments honest, but it isn't the same thing as saying "don't act", right?

I think it's time to act. (when I say "time" I don't mean bomb something
*now*, but more "it's time to do what we seem to be doing")

What I found heartening is the recent media stories indicating that a
significant part of this operation is going to be going in and distributing
aid to those that need it whether the Taliban wants it distributed or not
and whether the Taliban tries to stop it or not.

++Lar



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(...) So what did you mean when you said this : "I would indeed *like* this to be a real war (...) , because I see one as needful"? (...) That is indeed heartening. Before 11th Sept 4000 tonnes of food was reaching the starving each day and today it (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) afraid. No need for fear 8?) The original comment was directed at Mr Blairs assertion that we should "Be in no doubt Bin Laden and his people organised this atrocity,", and I'm afraid (!) I can't just dismiss my doubts because he asks me to. (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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