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Re: War
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Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:03:33 GMT
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Scott,

How bullheadedly DENSE are you going to be?  You only seem to be this stupid when
answering Larry's posts, I think it's time you at least try to engage your brain
before answering any posts from him...

Scott A wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

==+==
I reject that even if the sanctions actually *caused* the death of even 1
child that it's the fault of the imposers of the sanctions for the deaths.
The *fault* lies with the lawless dictator Hussein, not the US.
==+==

Do you still stand by that?

Yes.

Do you disagree with this comment:

"Just because Saddam Hussein doesn’t care about the children doesn’t mean
that it is acceptable for us to punish the innocent and helpless when he
hides behind them. We should confront dictators face-to-face rather than
adopting policies that are harmful to children and the people of Iraq."

No, I do not disagree with this comment. There is no inconsistency with what
I am saying, either.

Even when it is put in context (which you deleted):

==+==
It was made by a Libertarian Congressional Candidate 2000. He was apparently
against the "violence and economic sanctions perpetrated by our government’s
policies towards Iraq".
==+==

SO WHAT?!?

Larry has repeatedly stated that while he is a Libertarian, he doesn't agree with
the LP on many things.

How many times does he have to say that he doesn't toe the line 100% with the LP
before it sinks into your thick skull?

And why does this context do anything to affect the fact that there is no
inconsistency with what Larry was saying?  It does not, it's just you wasting
everyone's time again, digging at something that has absolutely nothing to do with
the issue.



Now, lets return to the rest of my message which you deleted:

==+==
Justin Raimondo (a fellow of the Center for Libertarian Studies, CA)
described the sanctions thus:

"...mass murder, comparable in scope to the famine unleashed by Stalin
against several million kulaks. After six years of a near-total economic
embargo, the once thriving Iraqi middle class has ceased to exist, and a
country once proud of its modernity is being dragged down into the lowest
rungs of the Third World."

Does anyone actually agree with you on this?

==+==

Do you agree with Mr Raimondo?

What, exactly, is your point?

Larry has repeatedly mentioned that he doesn't agree with the sanctions, but he
doesn't think the US should take the blame for them, SH should.  Is this really so
hard for you to grasp?  Are you that dense?

WHO CARES whether he agrees with Mr Raimondo or not?  He's already said he doesn't
agree with sanctions, so the results of the sanctions don't really matter (as far
as Larry's feelings), do they?


I won't apologize for being blunt or rude to you.  You have proven over and over
again that, while you may be well educated, you can be blindingly stupid about the
simplest statements.  I'm so tired of you beating deceased equines on Larry's
posts, especially when his opinions/stands on many points are so abundantly clear
to anyone else that can read.

I sure hope this kill filter in Messenger works...

--
Tom Stangl
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  Re: War
 
(...) I doubt that is LP policy... I may be wrong. Did I say Larry should agree with it just because it is related to the LP? (...) My skull is the normall thickness thak you! (...) I think there is. (...) Perhaps if Larry answered my point this (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: War
 
(...) Just a second. Larry states an opinion - but cannot justify it to me or others. I debunk it anyway. He still holds the same opinion - but still does not justify it. And you are calling *me* bull-headed? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: War
 
(...) Even when it is put in context (which you deleted): ==+== It was made by a Libertarian Congressional Candidate 2000. He was apparently against the "violence and economic sanctions perpetrated by our government’s policies towards Iraq". ==+== (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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