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Re: What happened?
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Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:31:11 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> Carbon 60 wrote:
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> > But remember they have to pay for everything with user-end fees, oh dear
> > I'm in hospital dying, got $10k? No I haven't, oh well I'll let you
> > choose your coffin - how about this nice blue one?
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> Healthcare is a good/service. As such, it costs money. There is no
> entitlement to goods or services. Rights speak to behaviours, not to
> free goods. So, yes, if you happen to have planned things poorly enough
> that you show up on the hospital's doorstep with no insurance, no money,
> and no charity lined up, think of it as evolution in action.
Unfortunately, many people are not in a position to pay the outrageous
premiums insurance companies require. And even if people do want to
pay, insurance companies get to pick and choose who they'll insure
(often denying insurance to those who need it most). Insurance
companies and hospitals are profit-motivated businesses. They are not
here to serve the people. Government, on the other hand, is here to
serve the people. The government has a responsibility to provide access
to health care and insurance when insurance companies and hospitals
won't. This does not mean that private insurance and medical treatment
will disappear, or even that it will diminish. Normally, you get what
you pay for - and that will keep private doctors and hospitals and
insurance companies swimming in money. But for those that need a
minimum level of support - they should be able to look to their
government for subsidizing their health care needs. The government
supports libraries, museums, and artists for the intellectual health of
its citizenry. It should support basic universal health care for its
citizens also. After all, the people give their tax dollars, patriotism
- some even give their lives - for the government.
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> And the coffin won't be free either.
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> --
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| (...) Gosh, I've found that insurance is quite affordable. What's the scoop? Oh, maybe it's because I've chosen an employer with a good package of bennies. (...) I thought government was here to perpetuate itself at the expense of the rest of us. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: What happened?
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| (...) Have you ever had the pleasure of enjoying government-run healthcare? I sure hope not. I have. My disability entitles me to care at VA facilities around the country and a few years ago, after my college fund ran out and Rachael and I were (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
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| The following responses are rather Libertarian macho flash because they were composed hurridly. That's OK, since the original poster was bemoaning no spirited debate. If the following statements don't provoke a great deal debate, I've misread the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Healthcare is a good/service. As such, it costs money. There is no entitlement to goods or services. Rights speak to behaviours, not to free goods. So, yes, if you happen to have planned things poorly enough that you show up on the hospital's (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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