| |
Daniel Jassim wrote:
> Let me just say that we, as Americans, should not be so sheepish to jump on
> the war bandwagon. War against whom? How in Heaven's name will killing other
> civilians ever make things better in the world? That is not justice, that is
> revenge and no one has the right to condemn the citizenry for the sins of
> it's government or leadership. The attack yesterday is proof of that, we
> shouldn't make the same mistake and become "indiscriminate" murderers.
I didn't actually hear anyone advocate attacking civilians. I guess I only assume when various gov officials say war, they mean war on terror, on the terrorists. I may be wrong, of course...
> Yesterday morning I went to get my hair cut and the hairstylist was
> commenting on the attack. I only said that I hope the people responsible
> will be brought to justice. She said "They're all Iranian." Hopefully such
> ignorant comments are few and far between. If we resort to such thinking we
> are no better than those who carried out this attack, Arab or otherwise. It
> is yet to be determined who carried out this attack (usually a group will
> step forward and claim responsibility).
if any group would to claim responsibility for this terrible act, they would have by now. I don't think anyone will - no one wants to face the reaction of the US here. Btw, and I'm not saying this is more than a coincidence, but weren't Bin-Laden's other attacks unclaimed as well?
> We should avoid stirring up hatred against Arabs. I recall the hours after
> the Oklahoma City bombing and the immediate call to arms against certain
> Arab nations, not considering that it may have been one of our own citizens.
> At this point, we still don't know who is behind this. And if it turns out
> the ethnicity of the attackers is Arab, it does not justify blanket hatred
> of Arabs. We'd be no better than the Nazi's with regard to the Jews of Europe.
Absolutly, 100% agreed on this.
> Regarding the scenes of Palestinians cheering after the attack, I have
> learned that the footage shown (or several portions of the footage) was
> possibly before the attack, and was the Palestinian reaction to Israeli
> troops withdrawing from that town. Around the Arab world, the feeling is
> mostly one of shock and outrage. If the Palestinian footage is indeed in
> celebration of the attack, then such behavior is very disappointing. But I
> want to remind everyone that the Palestinians are a people who have suffered
> under brutal military occupation for nearly 50 years. Their cheers are
> perhaps no different than our own when the bombs rained on Baghdad, even
> though innocent civilians were being killed in both cases.
hmmm... Can you quote ANY source (I'll even accept palestinian sources for now) that says that the cheering was not for the success of the attack? I would defenitly say it's "disappointing" except that I have come to expect such a reaction. If they cheer when a bomb goes off in Jeruzalem, killing innocent civilians, what's the difference in this case? Both the Hamas and Islamic Jihad said that while they didn't carry out this attack, the US deserves it. Do you think they did not cheer in their HQ when they got the news?
As for the "brutal military occupation for 50 year", that's for a whole other debate.
> What happened yesterday was a murderous and destructive act of hatred
> against our nation. But it should also be considered a wake up call to our
> government for it's unarguable role in fostering aggression and hatred
> around the world, and within our own borders as with Oklahoma City. The
> innocent shouldn't be condemned and suffer and die for the sins of the
> leadership. We should seriously examine why someone, or some group, would
> feel compelled to carry out such a horrible act. There are several lessons
> to be learned here, the main one is that killing innocent men, women and
> children is wrong. Most important, let our comments rest on peace and
> justice, not war and revenge.
"unarguable role in fostering aggression and hatred"... hmmm... excuse me, I want to argue this. How has the US forstered aggression and hatred, please tell?
Dan Boger
|
|
Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: War
|
| (...) The Syrian, Egyptian and Saudi Arabian broadcast news made note that portions of the footage shown on American TV were actually unrelated to the attacks. You must take everything with a grain of salt. I don't doubt that there were Palestinians (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: War
|
| (...) Years ago, the U.S. and other members of the world community sat on their hands as the Nazis performed atrocities before the world. Behind the scenes, many of our corporate "persons" profited from the blood and suffering of others (recently (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
Message is in Reply To:
| | War
|
| Let me just say that we, as Americans, should not be so sheepish to jump on the war bandwagon. War against whom? How in Heaven's name will killing other civilians ever make things better in the world? That is not justice, that is revenge and no one (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
177 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
- Entire Thread on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
This Message and its Replies on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
|
|
|
|
