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Re: Factions (and violence)
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lugnet.castle, lugnet.build.sculpture, lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Date: 
Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:16:04 GMT
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In case it hasn't been thrown out, how would the Sopwith Camel play into the
Lego non-implicit violence scheme?

ive recently read the book _Modernity and Warfare_ by pk lawrence, in it he
describes air power as the apex of modern warfare, in being both aesthetic and
horribly violent.

the war plane itself (be it biplane, divebomber, or stealth fighter) was built
with the idea of being used to strategically bomb.  the first bombing raid was
done by Italy before ww1 while attacking the Turkish territory of libya. i dont
know too much about the sopwith camel specifically, but im sure it either
bombed enemy troops or fired on them.

i think a big point to consider when talking about the Sopwith Camel in
specific is the dual nature of the war plane as both aesthetic beauty and
genocidal weapon of war.

i can understand that lego doesn't glorify war, but, especially with the
sopwith camel, it is glorifing the methods (or perhaps tools) of war. and the
nature of lego system is continually shown as violence of some sort: almost all
themes are of soldiers and warriors fighting eachother.

and this is really off topic for .castle
(im also posting to the debate list)

-lenny

ps. i really like debate, so thanks everyone for indulging me!



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  Re: Factions (and violence)
 
(...) That's just swiping JFC Fuller! :) Read Fuller's treatises on air power, written just after the horror of WWI, to see how much they feared the bomber. ("The bomber will always get through", all of that.) (...) It could theoretically fire (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Factions (and violence)
 
(...) And more unpredictable. There aren't really "front lines" you can avoid - they'll hit just about anywhere. The horror of war that it is difficult to run from. (...) This isn't entirely accurate. It was used first as intelligence gathering (as (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Factions (and violence)
 
(...) dont (...) Well believe it or not, when the Wright brothers inveted the plane, they had envisioned it as something that would make war less violent, because they thought that it would allow generals to spy on each other and stuff, and avoid (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Factions (and violence)
 
(...) In case it hasn't been thrown out, how would the Sopwith Camel play into the Lego non-implicit violence scheme? Jason (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.castle)

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