To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 12186
12185  |  12187
Subject: 
Re: Factions (and violence)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:00:57 GMT
Viewed: 
1616 times
  
In lugnet.castle, Leonard Hoffman writes:

the war plane itself (be it biplane, divebomber, or stealth fighter) was built
with the idea of being used to strategically bomb.  the first bombing raid was
done by Italy before ww1 while attacking the Turkish territory of libya. i • dont
know too much about the sopwith camel specifically, but im sure it either
bombed enemy troops or fired on them.

Well believe it or not, when the Wright brothers inveted the plane, they had
envisioned it as something that would make war less violent, because they
thought that it would allow generals to spy on each other and stuff, and avoid
needless casualties. What could they know?

In WWI, the plane hadn't really become strategically that useful yet. It was
used for recognisance, but so were observation balloons. There were a few
bombing raids but nothing anywhere close to the scale of the ones in WWII.
German Zeppelins did bomb English cities, but in general, the potiential of air
power had yet to be discovered.

The Sopwith Camel may have carried very small (almost hand grenade sized)
bombs, used for dropping (by hand) on enemy airships, but it was not ordinarily
used to bomb people on the ground.

I am sure that people living in medieval times lived in far greater fear of
siege engines, than people during WWI did, of enemy fighter planes.

I need to go order my Sopwith Camel now!



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: Factions (and violence)
 
(...) Well, in some ways that's perhaps true. What were the total casualties in Iraq compared to other wars of comparable scope? While Iraq certainly reminded us of what "precision" means with respect to tossing bombs hundreds of miles, we certainly (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Factions (and violence)
 
(...) ive recently read the book _Modernity and Warfare_ by pk lawrence, in it he describes air power as the apex of modern warfare, in being both aesthetic and horribly violent. the war plane itself (be it biplane, divebomber, or stealth fighter) (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.build.sculpture, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

120 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact

This Message and its Replies on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR