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Subject: 
Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:42:07 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason J. Railton writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > > 
> > > > Wrong.  I'm protecting the constitution from you.  And I'll win or die.
> > > 
> > > Spot on. Those that sacrifice freedom for peace shall have neither.
> > 
> > Strange, but my idea of freedom is not living in constant fear of being
> > shot.  That's why each of you wants a gun - to defend yourself against all
> > the others who have guns.  It doesn't even occur to you that everyone else
> > wants a gun because they don't trust you with one either.  It's a culture of
> > incredibly selfish paranoia.  There's anything noble about it.
> > 
> > The constitution was written in a completely different time, when arms were
> > muzzle-loading muskets and rifles - about as effective as throwing a knife,
> > but much longer to prepare a shot.  These were highly conspicuous when
> > carried in the street, and rarely kept loaded because of the risk of
> > personal injury (that and the risk of looking foolish when the powder and
> > shot fall out).  There's nothing noble in taking regulations for a standy
> > militia and twisting the meaning to justify these escalations in civilian
> > armament.
> > 
> > Jason J Railton
> 
> Whew!!
> 
> now it all makes sense. The forefathers considered how long it took to load
> a muzzle and the likelyhood of the ammo spilling out when they proposed the
> right to bear arms...

Nope. You are trivialising the issue rather than addressing the point. "The
forefathers" could not comprehend what weapons would do in a few hundred
years time (ie today). What do you think handguns will be like a few hundred
years from now?

Scott A



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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) They could comprehend that the same ordnance _must_ be available to both the military and the civilians. Chris (25 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Whew!! now it all makes sense. The forefathers considered how long it took to load a muzzle and the likelyhood of the ammo spilling out when they proposed the right to bear arms... (25 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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