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Subject: 
Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:27:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason J. Railton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > 
> > > Wrong.  I'm protecting the constitution from you.  And I'll win or die.
> > 
> > Spot on. Those that sacrifice freedom for peace shall have neither.
> 
> Strange, but my idea of freedom is not living in constant fear of being
> shot.  That's why each of you wants a gun - to defend yourself against all
> the others who have guns.  It doesn't even occur to you that everyone else
> wants a gun because they don't trust you with one either.  It's a culture of
> incredibly selfish paranoia.  There's anything noble about it.
> 
> The constitution was written in a completely different time, when arms were
> muzzle-loading muskets and rifles - about as effective as throwing a knife,
> but much longer to prepare a shot.  These were highly conspicuous when
> carried in the street, and rarely kept loaded because of the risk of
> personal injury (that and the risk of looking foolish when the powder and
> shot fall out).  There's nothing noble in taking regulations for a standy
> militia and twisting the meaning to justify these escalations in civilian
> armament.
> 
> Jason J Railton

Whew!!

now it all makes sense. The forefathers considered how long it took to load
a muzzle and the likelyhood of the ammo spilling out when they proposed the
right to bear arms...



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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Nope. You are trivialising the issue rather than addressing the point. "The forefathers" could not comprehend what weapons would do in a few hundred years time (ie today). What do you think handguns will be like a few hundred years from now? (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Strange, but my idea of freedom is not living in constant fear of being shot. That's why each of you wants a gun - to defend yourself against all the others who have guns. It doesn't even occur to you that everyone else wants a gun because (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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