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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:13:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Violence in the movies is not the
> > > > > > > same as in real life.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How so? What is different?
> > > > >
> > > > > Just what war torn coutry do you live in?
> > > >
> > > > I'm just wondering what the difference is in your mind.
> > >
> > > As I cycle to work, cars do not screech around corners. Buildings do not
> > > explode. But I am sure that behind a couple of doors a husband is beating a
> > > wife. A dad is beating his kids. A mother may be beating her kids too. The
> > > reality is that most violence in society happens in the home. Movies do not
> > > show that. Perhaps if movies did, there would be less domestic violence?
> >
> > It might be a way to curb that type of violence, yes. So why not show that
> > type of violence in movies? Get it out in the open. Don't hide it from your
> > children. Allow them to see the violence and have a chance to understand
> > that it is wrong and *why* it's wrong.
>
> Because, I expect, people do not want to know. Domestic violence exists, but
> too many in society turn a blind eye.
Now why is that I wonder? Get it out in the open. It wasn't too long ago
that homosexuality (for an example) was socially taboo for subject matter.
Now people tend to take it as a matter of course. I beleive that the media
had a huge hand in that change.
> > > > > Movies have the stylised violence we see today as the market does
> > > > > not want to see the real thing. Films which show real violence (Nil by >>>>>Mouth
> > > > > comes to mind) do not make huge $$, because the market wants, to a certain
> > > > > extent,
> > > >
> > > > Then why is there such a hunger for the media to lay their hands on (to use
> > > > the example again) autopsy photos of Dale Earnheardt?
> > >
> > > Who is this?
> >
> > He is a racecar driver who was killed in an accident during a televised
> > racing event.
>
> Was it a few months ago - Is that the guy who did not wear a helmet?
Yes, but he WAS wearing a helmet. IIRC he wasn't wearing the Head and Neck
Safety Device.
> > > > I think people truly want reality in their media, even if it is a stylized
> > > > representation of reality interpreted by the director. Why shield people by
> > > > removing their rights?
> > >
> > > Why expose kids to it?
> >
> > Why trample their rights? Children have rights too. It's up to the parents
> > to determine what is appropriate for their childs developmental stage.
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> I do not believe that parents always know best. I think most parents try
> their best, but at times that is not good enough. Children are too fragile
> to be left to trial-and-error parenting.
Isn't all parenting trial-and-error? I would argue that the parents know
better than the government what type of movies and television their children
are able to watch and comprehend. I don't want the government telling me how
to raise my children.
>
> Scott A
-Duane
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