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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:13:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

Violence in the movies is not the
same as in real life.

How so? What is different?

Just what war torn coutry do you live in?

I'm just wondering what the difference is in your mind.

As I cycle to work, cars do not screech around corners. Buildings do not
explode. But I am sure that behind a couple of doors a husband is beating a
wife. A dad is beating his kids. A mother may be beating her kids too. The
reality is that most violence in society happens in the home. Movies do not
show that. Perhaps if movies did, there would be less domestic violence?

It might be a way to curb that type of violence, yes. So why not show that
type of violence in movies? Get it out in the open. Don't hide it from your
children. Allow them to see the violence and have a chance to understand
that it is wrong and *why* it's wrong.

Because, I expect, people do not want to know. Domestic violence exists, but
too many in society turn a blind eye.

Now why is that I wonder? Get it out in the open. It wasn't too long ago
that homosexuality (for an example) was socially taboo for subject matter.
Now people tend to take it as a matter of course. I beleive that the media
had a huge hand in that change.

Movies have the stylised violence we see today as the market does
not want to see the real thing. Films which show real violence (Nil by >>>>>Mouth
comes to mind) do not make huge $$, because the market wants, to a certain
extent,

Then why is there such a hunger for the media to lay their hands on (to use
the example again) autopsy photos of Dale Earnheardt?

Who is this?

He is a racecar driver who was killed in an accident during a televised
racing event.

Was it a few months ago - Is that the guy who did not wear a helmet?


Yes, but he WAS wearing a helmet. IIRC he wasn't wearing the Head and Neck
Safety Device.

I think people truly want reality in their media, even if it is a stylized
representation of reality interpreted by the director. Why shield people by
removing their rights?

Why expose kids to it?

Why trample their rights? Children have rights too. It's up to the parents
to determine what is appropriate for their childs developmental stage.


I do not believe that parents always know best. I think most parents try
their best, but at times that is not good enough. Children are too fragile
to be left to trial-and-error parenting.

Isn't all parenting trial-and-error? I would argue that the parents know
better than the government what type of movies and television their children
are able to watch and comprehend. I don't want the government telling me how
to raise my children.


Scott A


-Duane



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(...) Either do I, but I intend to be a good parent. But I am glad the safety ne is there to protect kids... not just my own. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Because, I expect, people do not want to know. Domestic violence exists, but too many in society turn a blind eye. (...) Was it a few months ago - Is that the guy who did not wear a helmet? (...) I do not believe that parents always know best. (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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