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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:16:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Violence in the movies is not the
> > > > > > same as in real life.
> > > > >
> > > > > How so? What is different?
> > > >
> > > > Just what war torn coutry do you live in?
> > >
> > > I'm just wondering what the difference is in your mind.
> >
> > As I cycle to work, cars do not screech around corners. Buildings do not
> > explode. But I am sure that behind a couple of doors a husband is beating a
> > wife. A dad is beating his kids. A mother may be beating her kids too. The
> > reality is that most violence in society happens in the home. Movies do not
> > show that. Perhaps if movies did, there would be less domestic violence?
>
> It might be a way to curb that type of violence, yes. So why not show that
> type of violence in movies? Get it out in the open. Don't hide it from your
> children. Allow them to see the violence and have a chance to understand
> that it is wrong and *why* it's wrong.
Because, I expect, people do not want to know. Domestic violence exists, but
too many in society turn a blind eye.
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> >
> > Scott A
> > >
> > > > Movies have the stylised violence we see today as the market does
> > > > not want to see the real thing. Films which show real violence (Nil by Mouth
> > > > comes to mind) do not make huge $$, because the market wants, to a certain
> > > > extent,
> > >
> > > Then why is there such a hunger for the media to lay their hands on (to use
> > > the example again) autopsy photos of Dale Earnheardt?
> >
> > Who is this?
>
> He is a racecar driver who was killed in an accident during a televised
> racing event.
Was it a few months ago - Is that the guy who did not wear a helmet?
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> >
> > > It seems like people
> > > *want* reality in their media. Think back to the older westerns and war
> > > movies. When someone was shot, they either coverd up the wound or showed the
> > > "ketchup stain" wound. Today a gunshot wound seems incomplete unless you can
> > > see the graphic damage done by the bullet (preferrably in slow motion).
> >
> > No. A guy gets shot in the arm. He holds his arm and gives his chosen loved
> > one a kiss. His arm does not be blown off.
> >
> > >
> > > I think people truly want reality in their media, even if it is a stylized
> > > representation of reality interpreted by the director. Why shield people by
> > > removing their rights?
> >
> > Why expose kids to it?
>
> Why trample their rights? Children have rights too. It's up to the parents
> to determine what is appropriate for their childs developmental stage.
I do not believe that parents always know best. I think most parents try
their best, but at times that is not good enough. Children are too fragile
to be left to trial-and-error parenting.
Scott A
> >
> > Scott A
>
> -Duane
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