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Subject:	Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:48:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes: > Aha... now we've reached a potential crux. What do and do not have rights? > Does a dog? How about a baby? Does a retarded human? Cro-magnon man? This, once again, is the false dichotomy at work. Are you not asking that a line be drawn as a crossroads between sentient and non-sentient (ie: crux)? It was my impression that you'd already agreed no such line could be drawn, even though a distinction clearly exists (albeit admittedly bounded by gray areas). Dave!

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		Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) I agree that the boundary may not be as sharp as some may prefer. But is there a distinction? That is, are there things that do not have rights, in and of themselves? I'm in the camp that holds that there are. Rocks don't have rights, in and (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) Didn't I explain this before? I'm asking Larry where the line he's imagining is, not saying anything about what I believe with that statement-- And again, IF one asserts that animals do NOT have rights, and that humans DO, at some (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) Aha... now we've reached a potential crux. What do and do not have rights? Does a dog? How about a baby? Does a retarded human? Cro-magnon man? (...) Alright, I guess I'd dispute this, but only insofar as I think animals have rights. I just (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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