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Re: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 3 Jul 2001 16:20:47 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> > > > No no, your position on whether animals are moral/immoral OR amoral. Do you
> > > > think they are moral/immoral or amoral?
> > >
> > > Good restatement. Good luck getting a straight answer though.
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> > Larry,
> > At this point I am tempted to dig up all the old posts you have not answered
> > - where the questions were *very* direct. All those ones were you were
> > unable to justify yourself. Unable to back you own argument. Unable to show
> > us your strengths as a critical thinker. But, you will be glad to hear, I >won't.
>
> I for one would actually like to see you do that. Demonstrate away....
Why? He's done it before.
Why enable him dodging a simple yes no question by urging him to indulge
himself rather than urging a straight answer?
Besides, I freely admit that I don't always have all the answers nor do I
always answer every question asked. Some are irrelevant, some admit of no
answer, some I don't know the answers to, some there isn't time to address,
some are too far off topic. I pick and choose what to address based on
trying to make my points and to make the debate interesting.
Never tried to deny that. Sometimes I even say "you know what, last time I
got asked this I got all wrapped around the axle and couldn't answer it, but
here's my gut feeling on it. Can't justify it, but there it is".
But here's an example of a simple factual (it's based on what he said and
didn't say) yes/no question that admits of a simple answer. However it's an
answer that if given, would confirm the existance of a contradiction that he
was caught in. It would point out that he agreed with someone and then
disagreed with me when it was the same thing being said.
Hence you won't get a straight answer no matter how hard you try. His track
record suggests he's incapable of recognising he has contradicted himself or
of admitting it to others.
So let it go. Chalk it up as a good try and let it go. Let's move on.
Like I said to Chris a few posts back, sometimes the best you can do is
highlight that a difference exists and then drop it.
++Lar
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