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Re: Sanctions (was: Libertarian Propaganda)
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Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:09:15 GMT
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:
> Daniel Jassim wrote:
> > This is my opinion: As best as I possibly can, I want to avoid buying any
> > product or partaking in any sevice that resulted from a cruelly exploited
> > work force (as in slaves, child labor, forced prisoner labor, etc).
> How successful are you at this Daniel? I try to as much as I can. I'm
> curious about your attempts. Reply offline if you would like.
Well, whenever I'm considering buying anything I always look at where the
product was made. Generally, I look for the product made in the U.S.A.,
Japan or in Western European countries because, as far as I know, their
labor laws coincide with ours. I avoid products made in China (where a lot
of stuff comes from), Korea, Indonesia, Bangledesh, Brazil, Guatemala, and
other countries with current workers rights or human rights issues. It may
not be perfect, but my intent is to not contribute to wrong doings.
> > If I discovered tomorrow that LEGO was manufactured by child or slave labor,
> > or that the company obtained raw materials through exploitive labor, I would
> > stop buying the product and throw it all in the garbage.
> I seriously thought about this when I learned LEGO was shutting down
> several factories and moving brick production outta Enfield.
I see what you mean, since their leaving would cause hardship for the
factory workers their and families.
<snipped a lot of discussion>
> > In my opinion, f*ck the stockholders and investors if all they're going to
> > be concerned about is their profit. To advocate morality on Wall Street is
> > like asking a dog to be a cat. It's time people see the bigger picture and
> > invest in the world for the world, not for some selfish, deluded need for
> > creating and leaving behind a legacy. What, a legacy of greed and lust over
> > gold and silver (now oil as well)? Hasn't that been the story of elitism
> > throughout the centuries? How is it any different now?
>
> well said
<snipped my comments>
> Daniel, I believe what you are referring to here is something called the
> Evolutionary-Ecological Land Ethic. This was an idea developed during
> the middle of *last* century by a wildlife biologist named Aldo Leopold
> and published in his book of essays called "The Sand County Almanac".
Yes, I think I remember him now! It's been a while but I learned about him
in college in my outdoor recreation courses (I have a B.S. in Recreation). I
like his philosophy. Initially, my comment was inspired by a lot of what
Carl Sagan said about mankind getting past it's stage of global "infancy."
> He thought that mankind cannot exist without a healthy love and respect
> for the land with a high regard for its value (and that's value more so
> in the spiritual sense than the economic one).
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> Here's part of the ethic if any of you care to read it:
> http://www.tipiglen.dircon.co.uk/landethic.html
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> Here's what I believe to be one of the most important phrases from book.
> "A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability,
> and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends
> otherwise."
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> I use this as the foundation for my decisions... it works reasonably
> well.
Good man! That's a noble ethic to live by, in my opinion. Thanks!
Dan
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| (...) Can you provide cites on this? (...) How successful are you at this Daniel? I try to as much as I can. I'm curious about your attempts. Reply offline if you would like. (...) I seriously thought about this when I learned LEGO was shutting down (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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