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Re: Rolling Blackouts
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sun, 3 Jun 2001 19:47:45 GMT
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> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > You didn't ask me, but just in case extra opinions are helpful data points.
> > Once I realized that for lots of reasons (some of which you disagree with)
> > eating meat was immoral, it was easy. I don't knowingly commit immoral
> > acts, and when I backslide I try to make ammends. And since I'm not big on
> > self delucsion, what other course of action was open to me?
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> It's only marginally helpful (although I thank you for the datapoint)
> because I don't feel eating meat (of animals bred to be stupid meat animals)
> morally wrong in and of itself,
I agree that eating meat is a natural thing and not morally wrong itself.
However, I strongly feel that it is morally WRONG to eat the flesh of any
animal that was raised in filth and suffering and killed inhumanely. Animals
deserve a healthy life and a humane death, regardless of whether they are
"stupid" or smart. Although I am an Atheist, I would support any notion that
all God's creatures deserve respect and fairness.
> and I don't find doing things that are self
> destructive necessarily morally wrong just because they are stupid (I go to
> casinos even though I know I am going to lose)
I think you were too general here because I'm sure if you backtracked you
could think of a bunch of self indulgent things that are morally wrong
because they affect bystanders -- drug abuse, alcoholism (esp. combined with
driving), rape, incest, murder can all be self indulgent and morally wrong
and stupid. Just being lazy and doing nothing is wrong (sloth). I think it
is morally wrong to eat more than your share (gluttony). People eat what
they want, not what they need (greed).
It is morally wrong to NOT consider WHERE your food or drugs come from. Most
meat in America comes from suffering animals raised in filth and cruelity
and given a slow, painful, lingering death. So, by eating it we are part of
the greater evil. Most cocaine is made in South American jungles by men
using little kids to stomp out the coca with their bare feet in big vats.
The kids develop open wounds from the chemicals but also end up addicted to
the coca because it passes into their bloodstream. So, by using cocaine we
are part of the greater evil. Do you see what I mean?
> advantage of market inefficiencies to be morally wrong either (I'll collect
> SSec if it is still around even though I know it's a ponzi)...
Hmmmm
> So I only have the weaker "it's not good for you" argument to use on myself
> rather than the stronger "thou shalt not kill" argument you have available
> to you...
Think about it some more, Larry, you may change your mind for the better!
Dan
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| (...) I agree. My "stupid" comment was meant more to distinguish between cows and, say, dolphins, which I don't want to eat *because* they're too smart. (potentially... sentient!) Cows, Turkeys, Chickens, even Pigs I am fine with. (although I'm a (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It's only marginally helpful (although I thank you for the datapoint) because I don't feel eating meat (of animals bred to be stupid meat animals) morally wrong in and of itself, and I don't find doing things that are self destructive (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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