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Re: Rolling Blackouts
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:28:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:
> > Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> > > Works fine for resources that are fixed (Grazing lands, timber stands,
> > > etc... as an aside I think a lot of the overgrazing, overlogging and
> > > overirrigating in the US (which is shameful!) is directly caused by the fact
> > > that the land being grazed or logged or the water being used to irrigate is
> > > government owned, and thus the true costs aren't being passed through to the
> > > users. 10 cents a head a day to graze a cow??? I don't think that sounds
> > > like a true cost).
> >
> > Aren't there corporate lobbies that want grazing (continuing with your
> > example) prices that low? I'm not sure you can place all the blame on
> > the goverment.
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> I'm not sure I was. :-)
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> Put it this way, if you have a system in which government influence can have
> more economic impact than competing in the market, and in which large
> companies can effectively change what it is that government influences for
> low costs relative to the economic benefit to them... if you have such a
> system, is it the "fault" of the *government* for being powerful, the
> "fault" of the *companies* for trying to influence, or the fault of the
> system *as a whole*?
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> I would tend to say the latter. Rational people will tend to operate within
> the rules of the system to maximise their personal (or corporate) benefit.
> That does not make them bad, per se. If the system leads to bad outcomes,
> it's the rules of the game that are bad, not the players.
I think you have just highlighted one of the biggest problems with modern
society. By that, I mean the increasingly common belief that just because an
action is within the written law it must be ~OK~. I think this is quite
wrong. Loopholes do not exist to be exploited, they exist to be closed (i.e.
If the rules lead to bad outcomes – the players should change the rules –
not exploit them).
Scott A
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> ++Lar
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| (...) I agree with that. I am bound by my own inner morals, not the letter of the law, and feel some things that are legal are wrong, and some things that are illeage are not wrong. (...) But that begs the question of how much change is needed. (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not sure I was. :-) Put it this way, if you have a system in which government influence can have more economic impact than competing in the market, and in which large companies can effectively change what it is that government influences (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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