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Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
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Fri, 11 May 2001 21:21:32 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
George the Elder had no problem with tyrants so long as he felt he could do
business with them (they'd play along with "american" (George's) interests).
As to the rest, let's call a spade a spade: Iraq fought one war to grab oil,
then used the excuse of oil costs to try and grab an easier target's oil.
Sheer greed.  Could George have done more to avoid the situation?  Yup.

The Iran-Iraq War was started by Saddam because of the bad blood between him
and Ayatollah, in addition to sheer greed for oil and land. Doesn't change
the fact that we backed him, though. Doesn't change the fact that we helped
perpetuate the war.

Shoulda learned from the 1956 Hungary uprising: don't give people the idea
that you are going to help if you can't back it up.  That was outside of
what the rest of the Arab world gave it's approval to (free Kuwait, but
that's it).

But that's biased since the "Arab world" of the Gulf nations who "gave
approval" are all puppets on the U.S. payroll.

Ummm, the air flows in behind the rocket.  :-)

It's not as simple as just "air", it's the ozone layer, it's ionized
particles, it's air flow currents that are disturbed. We still cannot verify
what harm comes to the upper atmosphere during a launch and what effect it
has on ultraviolet radiation poking through the atmosphere.

Everybody bullies someone sometime.  Be aware of it and be on guard, but
don't think that anyone has a monopoly on it - people will see right through
that argument.

Well, it would be hard to argue that the U.S. doesn't have a monopoly on it
considering our firepower and our wealth and economic influence.

Dan



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  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Didn't say otherwise, but it seems you are trying to slide the primary blame onto America instead of where it firmly belongs. Believe me, I'm not a big Bush backer. (...) Are you saying that "real" arabs wanted Saddam in control of Kuwait? (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Yes, there always will be a bogeyman - 'cause we will make one up if he can't be found. Military-Industrial complex. Or is that a bogeyman....? :-) (...) George the Elder had no problem with tyrants so long as he felt he could do business with (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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