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Re: Rolling Blackouts
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 11 May 2001 20:38:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Simpson writes:
> I concede that I painted the geography of the region with too broad a brush,
> though I certainly meant no offense and I apologize if any was taken. I
> understand that the variety of landscape, vegetation, and climate, as well as
> proximity to ocean and mountains are factors that make So Cal an attractive
> place to live, and rightly so. However, I'd offer (from what I've read, and
> heard--correct me if I'm wrong) that Los Angelas has exceeded the carrying
> capacity of its environment in terms of supporting so many people in such, as
> you admit below, such a wealthy manner of living. Didn't LA drain dry the
> Central Valley 80 or so years ago? Sure, LA is wet in the winter, and the
> mountains force precipitation from the Pacific air, but water resources are
> cause for concern.
If all the &%$#! New Yorkers would stop moving here, it wouldn't be a
problem. :-)
Mono Lake is slowly going back up, and the Owens River exists again.
Honestly, if the water had been left in the Owens Valley, you'd simply have
seen more people there instead of L.A.
> I wonder, what price do the poor residents pay for the great weather and
> opportunity? And are not many of them also paying the price of those third-
> highest income earners who are living the good life in the hills and driving
> everybody's property values up (the dark side of gentrification)? It seems to
> me that the people in Compton are breathing dirtier air and paying higher
> utility bills so that the wealthy can enjoy the good life in the hills. (Same
> thing happens here in Houston-the suburbanites who are chronically afraid of the
> city clog up the freeways and foul the air, but yet don't want to help pay the
> cost of city infrastructure or state emissions requirements. In effect, I live
> with strict emissions laws in Harris County, but none of the hundreds of
> thousands of daily suburb commuters who do a great deal towards making our air
> dirty pay a red cent.) Anyway, is So Cal the land of opportunity for both the
> poor and rich? It seems to me that in LA, like Houston, the rich sometimes ride
> on the backs of the poor.
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> > but my opinion as an
> > > outsider is that that city is an archetype of all that is wrong with our
> > > consumer culture.
The blacks in Compton usually got there to escape the KKK in the south. The
smog blows up against the hills, not Compton. Not all people in Compton are
poor.
Bruce
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