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Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
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Fri, 11 May 2001 18:12:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:

I would propose
that to achieve something close to Libertopia in the real world it would be
necessary to obliterate the class system and all property, and then start
from scratch.  Otherwise someone will be given an unfair leg-up into
Libertopia--unfair, because it would have come from the same corrupt system
that Libertopia purports to reject.

I think you can start from an unfairer place and move towards a fairer place
without having to start completely from scratch. I about 1% of the time
think we should throw all property documentation away in NA and start over,
negotiating afresh with the Indians, to end up with a fairer system.

But as long as the trend is towards fairness I have no issue with uneven
starting points. equal rights != equal opportunity.

I hold no grudge against society or the US because my father and mother
started the game "behind" everyone else already here when they arrived here,
but rather hold up the system we had at that time (unfair and imperfect as
it was) as a great example of why exactly people DID want to come here and
strive to better themselves, even if doing so meant starting over with
nothing and being discriminated against.

But if getting to a perfect libertopia were only to be accomplished by
renouncing all one's property, one time... where do I sign? Would that it
were that easy.

++Lar



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  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I think that I think Dave is almost right. It still won't be fair. (If I understand what is meant by fair.) Larry has more marketable skills than I do and I have more marketable skills than the lady who's changing the trash can behind me. Very (...) (24 years ago, 12-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Well, I disagree on both counts, but I'm sure you're not surprised! 8^) I think that, as the proposed alternative to the existing system, Libertopia must provide the burden of proof that its notion of the fully free market won't result in the (...) (24 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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