Subject:
|
Re: Rolling Blackouts
|
Newsgroups:
|
lugnet.off-topic.debate
|
Date:
|
Thu, 10 May 2001 00:05:16 GMT
|
Viewed:
|
587 times
|
| |
|
|
Mr L F Braun wrote:
> > Here are a few key facts:
> > 1. In the USA, California is dead last in energy production per capita 50
> > out of 50
> > 2. In the USA, California is first in conservation per capita.
>
> I had always been under the impression that California had been
> putting up big ol' farms covered with turbine windmills, taking
> advantage of one resource (wind) that California's position gives
> it *plenty* of. But of course the capital investment per KwH
> output for wind power is higher than, IIRC, any other form, so
> of course companies won't invest in it.
It's not that (though that IS part of it). They can't even seem to maintain the
current wind farms, because the treehuggers are whining about the birds killed by
the blades on the windmills, and fight repairing any that break down. Setting up
NEW farms would be next to impossible thanks to some of the (too many) extremist
nature lovers in Kalifornia.
If they lifted the price caps, and didn't have to worry about the Audoban (sp?)
and other organizations, I can guarantee you that there'd be more wind farms
built in no time.
--
| Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support Netscape Communications
Corp
| iPlanet Support - http://www.iplanet.com/support/ A division of AOL Time
Warner
| Please do not associate my personal views with my employer
|
|
Message has 3 Replies:
 | | Re: Rolling Blackouts
|
| (...) Oh my GOD. You're kidding, right? I mean, the British just built tunnels for hedgehogs, and let behavioral modification take its course. The birds would learn, soon enough...the Canada geese sure learned fast how not to migrate! Have you seen (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Rolling Blackouts
|
| (...) Some of those blades must move *much* faster than the ones I've seen, which look like they're traveling at a pretty leisurely pace. Sounds like we need some scientific observation on the natural rates at which birds run into obstacles. Steve (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Rolling Blackouts
|
| (...) I'll have to respectively disagree. There is the 'famous' case of the Altamont Pass windfarm in your lovely state. Altamont Pass has the highest concentration of nesting pairs of Golden Eagle's anywhere in the world. Golden Eagles are (...) (23 years ago, 15-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
Message is in Reply To:
| | Re: Rolling Blackouts
|
| (...) True. The problem is that you can't buy power that there's no generating capacity for. The issue is more that California's power infrastructure sucks, as you point out: (...) I had always been under the impression that California had been (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
246 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
- Entire Thread on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
This Message and its Replies on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
|
|
|
|
