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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Mon, 7 May 2001 23:20:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:

"Honest friendship with all who wish it, entangling alliances with none"

This is an oft-quoted snippet, and I have no doubt that it was fine
foreign policy for an infant nation two centuries ago, but in an age when we
can cross the globe in hours, I think its relevance is more metaphorical
than actual.

Well, yes and no. The world does not admit of us huddling behind our borders
and assuming that distance keeps us safe, but nevertheless there is merit in
not getting entangled in alliances quite as much as we seem to have gotten
lately. No black and white quote ever matches reality but some can offer
guides even if not quite perfect...

Given some of the tenets of Libertopia (such as open borders,
free trade, and personal sovereignty), it would seem that a single
Nation-of-the-World is not only desirable; it is essential.

Au contraire, most libertarians think that the way to achieve that is
through a multitude of fragmented states so small and powerless as to pose
no threat to anyone, including their own citizens. Maybe not even totally
territorial in nature although HOW that would work isn't quite clear.

PS, no fair hanging Richard on stuff quoted (or implied) about Libertopia as
he's not been a huge proponent of Libertarianism  in the past, I don't think.

PPS, we three are more in agreement than some may think.

++Lar



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(...) That's interesting! During last year's debates about Libertopia et al, I tried to envision the type of world that could support a free nation like Libertopia (remember when I oh-so-cleverly coined it Liberama? Ah, such wit!) I still don't know (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) This is an oft-quoted snippet, and I have no doubt that it was fine foreign policy for an infant nation two centuries ago, but in an age when we can cross the globe in hours, I think its relevance is more metaphorical than actual. And while (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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