To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 10286
10285  |  10287
Subject: 
Re: A question of remembrance...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 7 May 2001 22:37:46 GMT
Viewed: 
1146 times
  
Dave! writes:
And while we're at it, let's not forget Burke:
"All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win the world is for enough
good men to do nothing."

::sigh::

I knew I should have left in my qualifier about the Nazis...

In my last post I WAS going to include that the nations of the world should
have spotted the threat the Nazis represented much earlier on and not have
jumped into bed with them economically as they in fact DID!  I also think
its okay for nations to occasionally band together to a common purpose, but
I would keep such alliances temporary.  The only sticky point might be
defining "evil."  Evil needs to be some kind of REAL wrong-doing, and not
just some idealogical dispute between ourselves and the Che/Castro gang.
Know what I mean, Dave!?

At the same time, I don't think I am eager to see any kind of one-world
government any time soon.  It's just too easy to make it "one neck ready for
one leash."  Sorry to go all Fountainhead on you, Dave!, but I think having
many smaller groups stirring things up is much better than one monolithic
beast trying to move forward.  Consider the example of evolution -- nature
doesn't put all of her eggs in one basket and neither will I.

And I do think you were missing Larry's and my point about the possibility
of alliances that prove useful to both parties.  I have no problem coming to
the aid of the people of France against her soveriegn if that's a good idea.
At the same time, I would not intrude into such a scenario uninvited unless
some very egregious offenses had been committed requiring me to act. I try
to never provide unsolicited help or advice (except on Lugnet!) -- I am no
one's parent as of yet. Others must be responsible for themselves to a very
large extent.

And I think you know that "My bias is entirely in favor of peace, however it
may be achieved..." disallows "exterminating one's enemies" -- such is
entirely beyond the scope of what most people term peace, and certainly
beyond the scope and context of my earlier statements taken as a whole.  In
context, you know bloody well such violence is not condoned by me to ANY degree.

"Minding my own business" doesn't mean I can't help a friend.  But it does
mean I respect my friends and neighbors to handle their own matters unless
they specifically ask for my help. At the same time, I won't sit idly by
while I listen to my neighbors sodomize their children.  There is a time to
act and a time to be at rest, it's all in the knowing the difference between
the two...

So Dave!, go thou and sin no more...

=oP

-- Richard



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: A question of remembrance...
 
(...) This is an oft-quoted snippet, and I have no doubt that it was fine foreign policy for an infant nation two centuries ago, but in an age when we can cross the globe in hours, I think its relevance is more metaphorical than actual. And while (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

197 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR