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I forgot to add Thank you Janey, and thank you Rosco, for all the work you put in to give us a sand pit in the sun. If something else eventually gets off the ground, I hope you 2 and all the other who helped make it a grand place come back into the (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nice work, CM Worker! (Or should I say CL Worker?) Hopefully, my prompt registering will result in a low member number (not than numbers mean anything). Spotlighted. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Richie Dulin Future JLUG2 Community Overlooker (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) that would of been :wiz: (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Goodonya Leigh. Who knows what you could achieve in an hour. At this rate, we'll have ITC by the end of the week. (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I feel your pain. Today our community became slightly less warm, and slightly less embracing. But JLUG was a tour de force to be reckoned with, while it lasted. It rawked. Cheers Richie Dulin Former Unofficial JLUG CTOP List Administrator (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, like it's so hard. (URL) is just a sample, and I've only put 15 minutes work into it. worker201 (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !
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It is a sad day today, I really enjoyed relaxing in Jlug, not needing to worry about watching what I or other would say. to be able to post irrelivant topics about nothing at all, or just smacking each other silly. for old times sake :wiz: :'( (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We could form a committee to discuss it, and then all resign in a fit of petulance. That'd be fun. They could run the server from a handcranked laptop in Africa. It'd probably be more reliable than those shonky Northstar servers. (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Doesn't seem fair, does it? It was one of the good ones. (...) I feel much the same way. I was contemplating setting up a website called save.JLUG.com, to provide a forum in which fans of JLUG could work to save JLUG. We could have provided (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nooo...ooo! :-( (big sigh) Even though I never post on the site. I did lurk on the site a quite few times every week. I am bummed that the site...has let's say...is taking a LONG vacation or in other words... in a coma. There is a movie title (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Didn't you guys keep back-ups? I gotta say I'm pretty upset by this news - it's as shocking as it is unexpected. I feel like I've lost a dear friend. (...) From my perspective, I think it was enough fun, but I expect I wasn't on the receiving (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And it died before ITC could be implemented. <Single tear>. I hope the much loved JLUG statistics can be published somewhere for posterity. Cheers Richie Dulin Former JLUG Community Overlooker. (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I just can't stop crying. Where do I go to curse and post bondage vigs now? I even took a picture of a couple cranes, a Halal Pepsi can, and a robotic cat to share with everyone... (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Janey, and Ross too- it was a blast. See you 'round. (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, C. L. GunningCook wrote: snip (...) Janey, Thank you for all the effort you and ross put into JLUG. It will be missed. You ran a fine site, and stuck to your values. thank you. Chris (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here are a few new JLUG slogans.... JLUG - The end of an error.... errr I mean era. JLUG - Been there, done that, cant be bothered to do it again. JLUG - The "sandbox" is condemned. Sadly during the recent crash we (JLUG) got hit pretty hard. Our (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !!
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(...) Yeah, but if the percentage of people who posed an immediate risk to people other than themselves was significantly higher, there would be more political capital to do something about it. Once the public perceives a lack of risk to themselves, (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The Judeo-Christian heritage of the United States government says that it's wrong to kill anyone, therefore it should be illegal. That does, of course, lead to the obvious question of why they thought it should be a capital crime. I mean, as I (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree with most of what you have said, however I'm not certain your car analogy is valid. While cars can be a deadly weapon that is not what they are designd for. A well used gun is one that is never used whereas a well used car is used all (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I will agree that the homeowner was wrong, but on different grounds. He did not properly identify his target before firing. In many states, you are allowed to presume that any un-invited intruder in your house is a deadly threat. Such laws are (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's not in that situation, either. It is noble and compassionate to try and comfort and help provide meaning to one in pain and agony. Further, not helping someone kill themselves can hardly be characterized as "forcing" them to live, Dave! (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You're correct, but that's kind of a dumb law. There's a ton of things that you can do to yourself that you can't do to others without consent, among which tattooing and masturbation are perhaps two of the most obvious examples. Why suicide (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't know that it's as simple as a black-and-white declaration. If someone is at full mental faculty but is physically incapacitated by constant agony with no hope of relief, how is it noble and compassionate to force that person to (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I dug up (URL) some statistics> (page 288- of the PDF) and it would appear that in the US just under one third of drug users are using something other than marijuana. So when talking about high-risk people (those whose actions are a danger to (...) (17 years ago, 11-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd say that depends on the society. In the US there is a problem with people mugging Oxycontin(sp?)-dependant people for their prescriptions and mainlining it. It is perhaps more expensive than heroin, and anyone who actually needs it to (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) Yes I don't doubt it but I think that the basic Conservative position (as opposed to the position of Conservatives) is against it. It becomes an 'exception to the rule' rather than part of a grey spread. (...) Yes. I'm still talking (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You're supposed to feel sympathy for Darth Vader because right before he redeems himself, we see Luke on the verge of making the same monumental mistake that his father made before him. Of all six movies, that is easily my favorite scene, (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is, as Dave suggested, an entirely cultural notion. Look to untamed nature to see the natural "might makes right" position, where the strongest (whether it be physically, or in terms of mental cunning) survive by killing, maiming, or simply (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought the difference between melodrama and drama was the cheesy music. That's what one of my theatre profs told me, at least... (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, there's no need to go insulting Batman by calling him twinky names like that. (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, they did sorta include the reception desk. Sorta. In the first floor, aside from the sliding cage door, there's some sort of computer terminal with a phone and a swivel chair. Not very desk-like, but hey, it's not very asylum-like (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Agreed. There are still consequences for actions. (...) Hmmm. Very broadly speaking, perhaps. But there are plenty of Conservatives who could easily sympathize with the killer in your example. (...) Well, you are certainly taking a risk by (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) I'd be more sympathetic too, but they're still a murderer. What about someone who has been abused by a partner for many years and lacks the capacity to escape. If they kill that partner in cold blood they are a murderer but I'm pretty (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, I take it now that we have dispensed fantasy and are now dealing with real life situations. Vigilantism isn't ideal, because there isn't a standard-- that, of course, is the beauty of Law. The problem comes when the law fails to bring (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--snip-- (...) No, that's just reality. It's just that liberal minds take a bit more effort to take it into consideration. (...) Does that mean you support Court by vigilante and death penalty for thievery? Do you really think it's up to the (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Generally speaking, this is the idea to which I object. Identifying with bad guys is bad. (...) Is Han really bad? Sure, he undermines the laws of an evil empire, but does that make him "bad"? Shouldn't we resist evil (bad)? (...) I can't (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) snip (...) I still say it's 7!!! :) Dave K (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well in this case the homeowner was definatly in the wrong. There can be no doubt that he shot without any warning, (otherwise his daughter would have made herself known to him) and thus he can't claim self defence, because he wasn't being (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: SNIPPY (...) Hey , what about the innocent men and the guilty women and children? (I had a strange cultural default twinge there as I typed 'children') SNIPPY Tim (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Part of Dave K's post (URL) here> brought this issue to mind and resonated with a recent news story. Here's part of the text of a post I wrote back in 2003. I've isolated it here rather than replying in-thread because I don't want to put any (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jun-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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